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To: A'elian' nation

From what I recall, his father was the custodial parent and the mother and her boyfriend attempted to take him to the US.

Do you have any copies of the records showing that Elian’s father intially wanted him to stay in the U.S.? If I see proof of this, I might change my view, but I have never heard this.

The bottom line is, if we, as Americans, do not believe in the most basic right of a parent to raise his his/her own child, we might as well throw out all our Constitutional rights (though the Democrats are already doing a good job of trampling them), and stop claiming any sort of moral high ground.

And spare me the “gas chamber” nonsense. His propaganda value has made him one of Cuba’s elites, so he isn’t suffering, much less dead. Plus, I’m not sure any Jewish parent in a Nazi contolled land would have demanded his child be returned from America to face a gas chamber.


40 posted on 11/27/2013 8:16:34 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

Did you read this? http://www.latinamericanstudies.org/elian/cousin.htm

You totally missed the point in regard to my Holocaust reference. My point was that there were back then “Natural Law” and “Fathers’ Rights” activists - conservatives even like Steve Largent - who would make the point that the child belongs to the father or parents regardless of the consequences or situation.

So if you take that viewpoint to the extreme then yes, they would argue that children should be with their parents as the head for the gas chamber.


43 posted on 11/27/2013 8:25:28 AM PST by A'elian' nation ("Political Correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred." Jacques Barzun)
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To: Above My Pay Grade

You recall wrong. His natural father NEVER had custody of him, never sent child support, never paid any attention to him whatsoever.


48 posted on 11/27/2013 8:53:25 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Above My Pay Grade

House slaves were still slaves.

He and his father are under the control of monsters and say what they are told. Sending the young man back to be a slave was vile and yet you support it.


58 posted on 11/27/2013 9:56:58 AM PST by Rifleman
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