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1 posted on 11/22/2013 7:47:20 AM PST by Kaslin
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One can only hope... maybe the pain will be wide enough and deep enough for even the dimmest of dimbulbs to understand.


2 posted on 11/22/2013 7:50:27 AM PST by refermech
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I think Pat is a little too optimistic here. In the late sixties, anarchist radicals were on the fringes of the Demonicrat Party, not in charge as they are today.


3 posted on 11/22/2013 7:50:35 AM PST by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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No.

The pendulum has to swing all the way to totalitarian Marxism now.

There is too much momentum to stop it.

There is a continuum from anarchy to total state control, and the inertia is always toward total state control.

We have long since passed the point of no return.

4 posted on 11/22/2013 7:51:04 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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Wishful thinking. Liberalism is way too appealing to an ever growing greedy and Godless society.


5 posted on 11/22/2013 7:51:37 AM PST by Right Brother
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NO. The free-sh*t brigade will be with us for generations, probably forever.


6 posted on 11/22/2013 7:51:53 AM PST by Skepolitic
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“Though you grind a fool in a mortar, grinding him like grain with a pestle, you will not remove his folly from him.”

Proverbs 27:22


7 posted on 11/22/2013 7:52:49 AM PST by MNDude
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I have no faith in Americans. If the pain isn’t constant, if the media drumbeat isn’t ever present, Americans will crawl back into their smart phone zone of oblivion.

Liberalism will never die. It’s relentless, and virulent.

Obamacare is a blip. The media will circle the wagons, and by election time, the Democrats will take some losses, maybe, but not a big deal. I suspect they’ll keep the Senate.

Yes, Americans are THAT stupid.


8 posted on 11/22/2013 7:54:04 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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This is delusion. You have a largely compliant media mixed with the left’s virtual control of every government institution on the federal level. Combine that with the education system in virtual control by the left for generations, cranking out true believers by the thousands year after year.

The right has to do some fast educating. That has been our downfall. Reagan was the last national leader to even attempt this.


9 posted on 11/22/2013 7:56:21 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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No, liberalism is ingrained in Western society because of Whitey’s unfounded guilt complex.

But Obamacare will be the death, unemployment, bankruptcy and other miseries of many American citizens.


10 posted on 11/22/2013 7:59:03 AM PST by 353FMG
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Sorry - I won’t even read the article. The takers don’t care about the intricacies of the failure of ObamaCare, they just want their free stuff. And when the left trots out single-payer it will be fully embraced.

Without a massive shift away from the “looter mentality” now espoused by the majority, we as a nation are in a death spiral.

Sorry for unloading my pessimism on you...


17 posted on 11/22/2013 8:10:49 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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“Now consider what the rollout of Obamacare is doing, not only to this president and his administration, but also to the idea that government has the solution to America's problems." Personally, I’d be embarrassed to admit that ONLY with the failure of the ACA was I aware of the US Gov. inability to accomplish anything promptly, efficiently or cost effectively. One would have to be solidly (and naively) predisposed to the idea of paternalistic government to WANT, much less EXPECT positive outcomes where government is involved. In any case, the globe is littered with examples of abysmally wretched, disaffected and exploited people who still bank on the timely and efficient delivery of services from their ‘government’.
18 posted on 11/22/2013 8:10:50 AM PST by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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See, I agree with Pat. But with a BIG IF.

IF Obamacare brings about a victory for conservatives in the midterms and we control the house and sentate and IF Ted Cruz (or someone equal to him) takes the WH in ‘16, then yeah maybe. Maybe conservatives can control Congress and the White House. And soon we can replace the useless libs in the Supreme Court. And d-bags like Hillary, Reid, Pelosi and those suckers will be impotent.

The failure of FUBOCare can be the turning point. The proverbial straw. I hope so.


20 posted on 11/22/2013 8:14:45 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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No. Just look at how liberals have reacted to the abject failures of the Great Society and Department of Education, they’ll just insist the failure is because it didn’t go far enough. Heck they already are, I know libs that are quite sure the reason OCare is failing is that it didn’t go all the way to single payer.


21 posted on 11/22/2013 8:16:26 AM PST by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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So toxic had the term "liberal" become that liberals dropped it and had themselves rebaptized as "progressives."

Of course we're all wondering, now that they've ruined the "progressive" label, what will they rebrand themselves with. "Moderate" doesn't really fit anymore. "Lefty" is too out there . . . Any suggestions?

23 posted on 11/22/2013 8:17:51 AM PST by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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No.

Only the death of the liberals will be.


24 posted on 11/22/2013 8:18:11 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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Feel good liberalism is being replaced by iron fisted tyranny. All that is happening is that the mask is coming off.


27 posted on 11/22/2013 8:34:22 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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I am dismayed at the amount of people who STILL don't have a frikking clue.

They don't plan on giving us a choice.

Plus, we have steamrolled past just liberalism some time ago. We are well into leftism. Moving to authoritarianism. On the road to communism.

28 posted on 11/22/2013 8:36:37 AM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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I Hope it's the Death of Liberalism and “Progressive-ism”.
29 posted on 11/22/2013 8:37:58 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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Look at the British. Doesn’t bode well.

Before long only a small percentage of the citizens...err...tax paying or benefit receiving entities...will remember what it was like to be free.


32 posted on 11/22/2013 8:43:36 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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And political correctness..

And the Global Warming scam..

And multiculturalism......

All on their death bed....right...

33 posted on 11/22/2013 8:44:27 AM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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