Posted on 11/21/2013 11:48:46 AM PST by george76
Wildlife lovers clamoring to bring gray wolves to Colorado may want to pay attention to those wooden outhouse-style structures in rural Catron County, New Mexico. They’re called “kid cages,” and they’re built to protect children waiting at school bus stops–from wolves.
“The wolf issue is an example, especially with the kid cages, about how you’re putting the interest of wildlife over the interests of human beings,” said filmmaker David Spady. “Every American should be concerned about seeing kids in cages and wolves out wandering around freely.”
Spady’s remarks came during a Tuesday screening of his film, “Wolves in Government Clothing,” a documentary on the impact of the 1998 wolf reintroduction on those living in the rural West.
The film focuses on rural communities struggling to cope with the economic and safety issues that accompanied the wolves, including livestock depredations, reduced elk and moose herds, and fewer hunting opportunities, not to mention chilling close encounters with wolf packs.
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The Fish and Wildlife Service is expected to rule on the wolf proposals sometime after public hearings conclude Dec. 3.
(Excerpt) Read more at thecoloradoobserver.com ...
All through the 20th Century, the average number of deaths related to wolves in the Soviet Union was over 200, per year.
I guess you think North American wolves are different. If you do, you'd be wrong. North American wolves came from Siberia in the late Pleistocene. They are an introduced species. The native North American wolf, C. dirus, had long been extirpated by the Indians.
Morons like you don't even understand that "wild" as you mistakenly think you understand it is a sixteenth century fantasy invented by a claque of urban intellectuals.
And you think the "nature equipment" outfitters, camera manufacturers, four wheel drive manufacturers, airlines, television producers and G_d knows what else don't benefit from your preferences? You are a lying sack sonny.
I’m guessing it took a while.
Like maybe hundreds or thousands of generations of wolves.
Just a guess.
That would be about the same time we eradicated most of them.
Actually, I guess we didn’t get rid of enough of them. A more recent attack on a human was August of this year.
http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/08/27/16-year-old-survives-first-ever-documented-serious-wolf-attack-in-minnesota/&sa=U&ei=4T-QUprAE5HzoASd4oDoBg&ved=0CDMQFjAE&sig2=4-jEEtlH-EtQ3a3gKhTkaQ&usg=AFQjCNE3iTOG4EoAC1ML2kIahWXTKLdreA
Given anti-government attitudes in Catron County, I’m surprised that SSS hasn’t come into play.
>> Many residents and many hunters in Catron County, NM have made many wolves disappear.
So many that in fact every wolf now has 3 government employees (armed) tracking its movements and the movements of its only effective predator (humans).. <<
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3093994/posts?page=31#31
** Given anti-government attitudes in Catron County, I’m surprised that SSS hasn’t come into play **
This could end quite badly. Catron County folk are a mite feisty.
Liberal fools and their defenders [ graduates of the Farley Mowat School of Wild-Lie Biology ]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3093994/posts?page=79#79
are in for a huge shock... as warned by Yuri Bezmenov .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk
This will end quite badly.
Delayed NM list *PING*!
Carry_Okie, you are under the misimpression that altsehastiin wants to learn.
Wild-Lie Biologists (Did you make that up? Very clever, and true) have no interest in, or understanding of, things scientific or rational.
They live in an emotional world, and as such, the book you reference is illegible to altsehastiin .
Yes, I did. I've been involved with such for nearly twenty years.
They live in an emotional world, and as such, the book you reference is illegible to altsehastiin.
There is a way to fix that, which is to show them the ecological damage they have done and will do, including hundreds of extinctions while SIMULTANEOUSLY proving that you have done the dirty work of restoration without compensation, which I have done to an unprecedented degree.
Rob them of the moral high ground and then point the accusing finger. I'll be publishing some rather compelling examples later this winter.
The solution is to arm children in rural areas.
The function that wolves perform in the ecosystem is to slaughter every form of life not more savage than they are (grizzlies, for instance) while being strictly protected by the urban environmental lobby.
Since Canadian grey wolves were introduced into Montana they have devastated the Northern Yellowstone elk herd, reducing it from 19,000 animals to somewhere around 3,000.
They have also virtually wiped out the moose population statewide, and have had similarly deleterious effects on bighorn sheep and mountain goats.
I don't know where you live but your talk about bunnies and coyotes wouldn't get you far around here.
I live in Southern California. But I lived in Northern New Mexico back in the fifties when the farmers, hunters and others passed a law that would rid the state of Coyotes because they were threatening livestock, wild game, and yes the poor innocent bunnies.
Fast forward ten or fifteen years and the farmers, hunters and others were complaining that they were overrun with rabbits, rodents, and other pests and they were destroying the farmers crops and stripping the forests of plants which the game animals needed to survive.
Large deliveries of hay were trucked in so the overgrown herds of wild game wouldn't stave or raid the farmers fields.
After that it was decided that predators are part of the ecosystem and need to be managed in order to provide a balance
I agree with everything you say in this post.
But none of it has anything to do with wolves, and in particular with government-introduced non-native wolves.
They are an intentionally-inflicted (by the radical, anti-capitalist environmentalist movement) plague upon ranchers, hunters and genuine lovers of wildlife.
In Idaho, 75% of what wolves eat, by mass, is cattle.
The solution is to arm children in rural areas.
No, the solution is to communicate facts, to which you seem immune.
Bad management. Around here, coyotes are eating so many fawns that the oak/madrone woodland is terribly overpopulated with seedling trees. Your mistake is that wolves are not likely to eat rodents with tastier and easier prey available. As long as there are cattle to kill, they can multiply and survive on them long enough to take the last bighorn sheep or elk. Most people do not understand mulit-prey systems, and unfortunately, that includes most public agencies.
Google "Tom Bergerud" for more information on the topic. Between he and Valerius Geist you will get more reliable information. As to the impact of wolf reintroduction, George Dovel has done the best job of compiling reliable information.
Takes forever to download then forever to scroll down.........then forever to try and exit out of it and back to previous site here.
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