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North Texas Drivers Stopped at Roadblock Asked for Saliva, Blood
NBCDFW ^ | November 19, 2013 | Scott Gordon

Posted on 11/19/2013 2:31:36 PM PST by Ken H

Some drivers along a busy Fort Worth street on Friday were stopped at police roadblock and directed into a parking lot, where they were asked by federal contractors for samples of their breath, saliva and even blood.

It was part of a government research study aimed at determining the number of drunken or drug-impaired drivers.

"It just doesn't seem right that you can be forced off the road when you're not doing anything wrong," said Kim Cope, who said she was on her lunch break when she was forced to pull over at the roadblock on Beach Street in North Fort Worth

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which is spending $7.9 million on the survey over three years, said participation was "100 percent voluntary" and anonymous.

But Cope said it didn't feel voluntary to her -- despite signs saying it was. "I gestured to the guy in front that I just wanted to go straight, but he wouldn't let me and forced me into a parking spot," she said

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An agency spokeswoman sent an email confirming the government is conducting the surveys in 30 cities across the country in an effort to reduce impaired-driving accidents.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcdfw.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 100percentvoluntary; 100voluntary; communism; dnaroadblock; donutwatch; fortworth; ftworth; nhtsa; obamasfault; policestate; roadblock; stasi; taxdollarsatwork; texas; texasping; tsa; tyranny
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To: JennysCool
I don't normally start emails or phone calls to politicians with: "What the hell is going on..." but today I did.

/johnny

41 posted on 11/19/2013 2:55:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: South Dakota

And if you don’t volunteer then you must be hiding something and we’ll do it because of that.


42 posted on 11/19/2013 2:55:53 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Ken H

The would have gotten it, but they would have to take mine by force. I sure as hell would not have voluntarily complied.


43 posted on 11/19/2013 2:58:06 PM PST by sport
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To: Windflier
Would you please be so kind as to ping the Texas ping list. We need to get some folks making calls and writing emails.

/johnny

44 posted on 11/19/2013 2:58:43 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: GeronL
Texas ping. You should make some calls and write some emails. This crap can't stand.

/johnny

45 posted on 11/19/2013 2:59:47 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Marcella
You know what to do. Give 'em hell. This crap can't stand in Texas.

/johnny

46 posted on 11/19/2013 3:00:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SandRat

Apparently, there were NO COPS there. At least none that will admit it.

This was a bureauKaRATZ initiative from beginning to end.

Tell the RATZ they got NO AUTHORITY to pull you over.

Run the turds down if they stand in front the car.

People in this country have become sheep. And the RATZ know it. That’s why they get away with this sh!!.

Wait till they run into someone who isn’t intimidated, then they will cry real tears.


47 posted on 11/19/2013 3:00:50 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: sport

The say it is voluntary...

I bet the sample will be skewed by compliant drivers to indicate more sober than not sober.

The test administrators know this is true, hence the farce of voluntary.

So I understand their problem, but every facet of this experiment is ill designed. Only heavy handed gubment could ever conceive of something this vile.


48 posted on 11/19/2013 3:00:59 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: tobyhill

Texas can be awfully dependent on their tough reputation. I am amazed at the crap they take in consumer venues from people who appear to have no intention of respecting them, their state or their country. And they give me a lot of crap for not putting up with this with my ny accent

I’d have said no you don’t have probable cause.no


49 posted on 11/19/2013 3:01:30 PM PST by stanne
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To: DariusBane

It’s undoubtedly going to be used to populate the DNA portion of the ginormous database in Utah.


50 posted on 11/19/2013 3:02:22 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Ken H; SunkenCiv; LucyT

They were doing this in Alabama last summer.

Why were roadblocks in St. Clair, Bibb counties asking for blood & DNA samples this weekend? (AL)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3029696/posts

http://blog.al.com/east-alabama/2013/06/why_were_roadblocks_in_st_clai.html

Post 6
Saw this in the comments at al.com: “The Tides foundation (Soros) funds PIRE (Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation)”

The report on the 2007 study is here:

Pilot test of New Roadside Survey Methodology for Impaired Driving
http://www.nhtsa.gov/DOT/NHTSA...s/PilotTest_NRSM.pdf

The abstract is: (excerpted)

16. Abstract
This study developed and tested procedures to enhance roadside survey procedures to include collecting and analyzing oral fluid and blood samples from the nighttime weekend driving population. Roadside surveys involve collecting information from a random sample of drivers. In the past, they have been used to measure the extent of alcohol use in the nighttime driving population in order to establish regular measures of that activity, which is a measure of progress in reducing impaired driving.

Other
DNA collected at roadblocks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3029457/posts

Post 39
Instant DNA analysis worries privacy advocates
http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/dr20130110-instant-dna-analysis-worries-privacy-advocates

Post 25
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3029457/posts?page=25#25
Rapid DNA System
http://www.dhs.gov/sites/defau...apiddna-20130208.pdf

One paragraph, middle of page 4, states: “In preparation for the Rapid DNA System, S&T conducted a broad review of DNA needs across DHS operational components and found several consistent needs for verification of family relationships, countering human trafficking, family reunification, identification of victims following mass casualties, and checks against DNA samples of known criminals. Each of these applications require significant policy development or revisions and privacy and civil rights assessments to allow the use of DNA in operational settings.”

Blood, spit and cops: Nationwide drug roadblocks raise eyebrows
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3033626/posts

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/19/us/drug-survey-roadblocks


51 posted on 11/19/2013 3:02:49 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Black Agnes; All

I wonder if they are tying the samples to drivers license numbers?????

Anybody able to answer this question?


52 posted on 11/19/2013 3:04:30 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Rusty0604

Check post # 29 for your answer. And as a bonus, there will be a gallizon of people posting on this forum haw stupid you was, how brave the officers that shot you were, how you deserved what you got, and last but not least, I would have shot the @!$%&*R myself had I been there.


53 posted on 11/19/2013 3:04:58 PM PST by sport
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To: Ken H

WHAT IN HELL IS GOING ON IN TEXAS, a state many Blue staters are considering for relocation???

Until Perry gets a handle on crap like this, better rethink that!!


54 posted on 11/19/2013 3:05:06 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: who knows what evil?

“You’re not safe in your car; you’re not safe in your home”

The enemy probing, just hoping they can intimidate someone into resisting so they can make an example. Remember they’re not bad people, just doing their job like the park rangers, TSA and the Nazis.


55 posted on 11/19/2013 3:05:45 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: JennysCool

They’d better be.


56 posted on 11/19/2013 3:05:57 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

They were Mexicans and one did get dinged. One thing for sure is that the cops tried.


57 posted on 11/19/2013 3:06:57 PM PST by sport
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To: Ken H; null and void

The beginnings of a federal DNA database?

PING!


58 posted on 11/19/2013 3:07:42 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Rusty0604
And if someone refuses to turn into the parking lot, are they charged with evading the authorities?

Exactly! Will they be shot? Even if their dog is NOT in the car??

59 posted on 11/19/2013 3:07:55 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: ConradofMontferrat
Apparently, there were NO COPS there.

According to the article, Fort Worth police said their traffic division coordinated with the NHTSA in using off-duty officers.

60 posted on 11/19/2013 3:08:04 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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