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The Left given the choice would rather a school be flagged as "failing" than flagged as "dangerous." [so they'll fudge the data and ignore the violence and end up with both]

And as with "global warming," the Left must hide the truth.

So, given their track record - I'd say the lie gets the nod.

Obama (and the Democratic Party) are liars. They lied to the American people.

And the Democrats believe that being a liar is much better than being incompetent.

1 posted on 11/17/2013 1:16:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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Gosh, Obumbo must really be in deep doodoo if the Communist News Network is being critical of their messiah.


2 posted on 11/17/2013 1:24:02 AM PST by AlexW
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This is not an “either-or” proposition.

The man is both monumentally incompetent AND a liar.


3 posted on 11/17/2013 1:25:57 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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The Left and their compliant media praised the Clintons for their ability to lie and get away with it.

They liked to say about Bill Clinton’s Monica lie - “It was only about sex.”

What can they say about Obama’s lie to dismiss it?


4 posted on 11/17/2013 1:27:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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9 posted on 11/17/2013 1:55:53 AM PST by Bobalu (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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There is incompetence on both sides. There is no doubt in my mind that a select few knew not only knew that the so called website wasn’t ready but that they withheld that information. From the key senators leading the charge to defund.

But the incompetence on our side continues. Take the the Saturday 11/16/13 radio fireside rebuttal to Obama’s assertions on globull warming given by Senator Ron Johnson .

It should have been anticipated Obama would divert and deflect attention from their nightmare creation even if they weren’t given an advance copy of Obama’s talk. Instead of waiting for that to be released and examined they went ahead with a canned pronouncement allowing the political opposition to proclaim victory over another unresponded to mess they created, fuel prices.

While Obama is way over his head so are the people running the Republican Campaign Senate and House committees.


10 posted on 11/17/2013 1:57:30 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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I vote for both lying and clueless. Actually, he’s not clueless, many of his initiatives are part of his long-range strategy of making the U.S. Western Sweden. He just isn’t as nearly smart as he thinks he is. There’s no way the Swedes would botch a plan like this. But then the Swedes are the ones who keep importing violent Muslims, so maybe they’re not so smart either. And yes, I know we import violent muslims (Somalis) as well.


13 posted on 11/17/2013 2:23:56 AM PST by driftless2
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Trouble in paradise with cnn? Does candy crowley know about this?


14 posted on 11/17/2013 2:33:21 AM PST by Paulie
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Lies are fatal unless they affect voters....

Here’s a thought I haven’t seen anywhere. What if insurance companies are, in fact, part of all of this? They get higher rates. The Democrats get a path to a single payer system and control of the health care system. The people who lose are the taxpayers who now have to pay higher rates for policies that they don’t need.

There should be criminal investigations.


15 posted on 11/17/2013 2:36:52 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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The left is competent AT ITS ACTUAL FUNCTION,

Unfortunately THEIR FUNCTION IS TO DECEIVE (the least discerning half of) THE PUBLIC.

Adam Smitth said that people of any given trade naturally tend to conspire agains the public, to the extent that it is unfortunate they cannot be kept from talking to each other at all.

He also said that to the extent that you believe ANYONE, to that extent he is your leader “and director.” Anyone who insists on being believed implicitly is a a con artist. Journalists do that with their “objectivity” claims - and as best illustrated by the example of George Stephanopolis, there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between a journalist and a Democrat operative.

And whereas a Republican may get to Washington actually representing the public, once there he talks to other politicians too much - and tends strongly toward joining that trade’s “conspiracy against the public.”


17 posted on 11/17/2013 2:56:07 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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So the options are he is either liar or a fool?


18 posted on 11/17/2013 2:56:49 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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I wish we would look at the problems with Obamacare like we did with the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. The Dreamliner had numerous problems before it was certified for flight. Boeing spent countless man hours going over every problem to make sure there was nothing that would jeopardize the safety of the Dreamliner. Those who would fly in that aircraft would expect no less.

We all remember when in January 16, 2013, the ANA flight from Ube to Tokyo Haneda was diverted after a burning smell was detected. Inspection revealed a battery fire. A Similar incident on a JAL 787s at Boston's Logan Airport created a huge crisis for Boeing's state-of-the-art airline. All 50 in-service Boeing 787s were grounded. Below is a photo of that totally burnt battery:

Did anyone protest the grounding of those 50 Dreamliners? Would you feel safe flying in the 737 knowing it had a battery problem?

The Republicans in the House are like aircraft engineers who have the Constitutional mandate to insure the flight readiness of the law. In the case of Obamacare, there are so numerous problems that it has to be scraped. They are saying that Obamacare is a plane that won't fly. Americans know that Obamacare is wrong and the Democrats have secretly known it all along too. The fact that Obama wants no changes made is a clue to his tactic. It is a tactic to pin the image of obstructionism on the Republicans. This tactic, including the politics of personal destruction, is all they know. They know if they stonewall the Republicans, they can neutralize the majority power of the House Republicans and can use it to vilify them for the 2014 elections. It is an election tactic. They are willing to use an election tactic, knowing very well it will do great damage to the country. Let's call them what they are: Terrorists.

President Obama is in the cockpit crying like a maniac, “Get this plane off the ground!” He is sounding more and more like a cry baby having a tantrum that is willing to take the Flight Obamacare to disaster to play his political game.

The aircraft engineers have discovered they must take all the bad parts out and rebuild it from the ground up. As it is, the plane won't fly.

21 posted on 11/17/2013 3:13:21 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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With Marxists,Democrats,the ends justify the means,lying is justified in defeating the opposition be it republicans,tea partiers,because they are evil don’t you know


22 posted on 11/17/2013 3:17:30 AM PST by ballplayer
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If CNN is off the reservation, then it must be really bad for team Obama. The Clinton New Network probably knows this is really bad for Hillary since she also said the mantra "If you like your plan you can keep your plan". They know Obama is now an albatross around her neck so CNN now throws him under the bus to save her.

Fascinating to watch these Progressive Liberals turn on the 'one'.

25 posted on 11/17/2013 3:19:27 AM PST by sr4402
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Obamacare: What's Next
26 posted on 11/17/2013 3:21:43 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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32 posted on 11/17/2013 3:42:23 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (What we said when we said what we said was. Period. End of story.)
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....conniving, calculating Obama makes very sure to appear as if he is "hopelessly out of the loop."

Obama "knows nothing" WRT:

<><> the IRS scandal,

<><> NSA spying,

<><> Benghazi,

<><> multiple scrubbed DOJ investigations,

<><> IRS stealing medical records,

<><> HHS Sibelius strongarming h/care groups for donations,

<><> congress/USSC verizon blackberries being monitored,

<><> his signature health plan collapsing....

==============================================

THE RUSH THEOREM: if he appears to be governing, if he "acknowledges" what's happening right under his nose, that would mean he'd have to take responsibility for all of it.

35 posted on 11/17/2013 4:05:21 AM PST by Liz
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March 21st 2010 to October 1 2013 is 3 years, 6 months, 10 days.

December 7, 1941 to May 8, 1945 is 3 years, 5 months, 1 day.

What this means is that in the time we were attacked at Pearl Harbor to the day Germany surrendered is not enough time for this federal government to build a working webpage.

Mobilization of millions, building tens of thousands of tanks, planes, jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, millions upon millions of guns, bombs, ammo, etc. Turning the tide in North Africa, Invading Italy, D-Day, Battle of the Bulge, Race to Berlin - all while we were also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific!!

And they can’t build a webpage.


36 posted on 11/17/2013 4:23:44 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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CNN ? ?


40 posted on 11/17/2013 4:57:11 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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——Is President Barack Obama making this up as he goes-—

No, recall what the witch from the west said. Recall that the law is 2000+ pages with 22,000 pages of regulations.

The President is making it up as he reads to find out what’s there. He is only half way through the law and barely started on the regs.


45 posted on 11/17/2013 5:07:05 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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There is a third possibility. What if it is going according to plan. Too many people could have predicted these problems, knowing anything about economics, one could easily predict the failures we are seeing. For instance, in today’s tech world, you would almost have to PROGRAM what we are seeing at the web site. I run a web site ... I would have to “make” it have problems as bad as this website is showing. I really believe they WANT the chaos and collapse of health care system. We are experiencing the transformation of America...it isn’t coming, it it HERE...we are inside the coup.


47 posted on 11/17/2013 5:09:53 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (.)
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