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State Dept.: Israeli Settlements Are ‘Illegitimate'
CNS News ^ | 11/15/2013 | Patrick Goodnough

Posted on 11/15/2013 8:35:22 AM PST by Rusty0604

Edited on 11/15/2013 9:36:20 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

(CNSNews.com) – Asserting that the United States views Jewish settlements as “illegitimate” does not amount to prejudging the outcome of negotiations aimed at resolving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Thursday.

The U.S. has not recognized the legitimacy of settlements in the disputed territories “for decades,” she told a press briefing.

“Every administration in recent memory has said that the settlements are illegitimate,” Psaki added. “So it’s been a pretty consistent position for quite some time now.”

Some 520,000 Israelis – around seven percent of the total population – live in areas claimed by the Palestinians, including long-established suburbs of east, north and south Jerusalem.

Increasingly often in recent months, Secretary of State John Kerry and State Department officials have made the point about settlement illegitimacy.

Usually, they have attributed the term to “continued” settlement activity – implying active construction work in existing or new settlements. (President Obama used the same term in his 2009 speech in Cairo and again at the United Nations later that year, saying the U.S. “does not accept the legitimacy of continued Israeli settlements.”)

But at a meeting with Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas in Bethlehem last week Kerry dropped the modifier, saying only “we consider now and have always considered the settlements to be illegitimate.”

Asked Thursday about the significance of dropping the word “continued,” Psaki said it was just “an issue of semantics.”

A reporter disagreed. “If you talk about the illegitimacy only of continued settlements, that means that you take no position on existing settlements,” said the Associated Press’ Matt Lee.

“If you have in fact dropped the word ‘continued’ from in front of ‘settlement activity,’ whether you say it’s a policy change or not it has very broad implications. It would appear as though you are toughening your stance and saying that all Israeli settlements are illegitimate

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1 posted on 11/15/2013 8:35:22 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: Rusty0604
Is the State Dept saying the settlements are illegal - that is, constructed outside the bounds of law - or are illegitimate - that is constructed without sanction of law?
2 posted on 11/15/2013 8:43:46 AM PST by quadrant (1o)
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To: Rusty0604

John Kerry your documents and qualifications are intelligent. You have been possibly charged with treason and you records were intelligently changed by President Carter. Repent!


3 posted on 11/15/2013 8:52:36 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Rusty0604
"Asserting that the United States views Jewish settlements as “illegitimate” "

So's 0bama.

4 posted on 11/15/2013 8:54:33 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Rusty0604
Hey..State Dept., the Israeli won the wars/conflicts of 1948, 1956, 1967 and 1973....GET OVER IT!
(nobody wants to hear your whine..bellyaching)
Tell Arabists to go back to their own Hell..fecal strewn 7th Century world.
They (Arab gov.) told them to abandoned their lands/possessions in '48,
"join your brother Arabs in "the glorious Jihad"...THEY ALL LOST.

5 posted on 11/15/2013 8:54:50 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Rusty0604
Asserting that the United States views Jewish settlements as “illegitimate”

Since when are Kerry & Jarrett
members of the Zoning Commission
in Jerusalem Israel ?

6 posted on 11/15/2013 9:00:44 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Rusty0604

Ah. The US NAZI department, again.

When do these guys get their black and silver uniforms?


7 posted on 11/15/2013 9:02:02 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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The US State Dept is illegitimate as is much of USG. It has become anti-law, lawless, ruled by decree and _special_ men.
8 posted on 11/15/2013 9:05:06 AM PST by veracious
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To: Rusty0604

The toilet just flushed again.


9 posted on 11/15/2013 9:09:26 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Rusty0604
"The U.S. has not recognized the legitimacy
of settlements in the disputed territories
“for decades,” she told a press briefing."

Actually, the US Congress and America recognized Israeli sovereignty
AND Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel
until the DNC and Tyrant Obama deemed otherwise.

10 posted on 11/15/2013 9:14:09 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Rusty0604

As long as Israel is owned by Israel, I’m thinking they have the authority to make their own laws...


11 posted on 11/15/2013 10:08:00 AM PST by Iscool
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“...The U.S. has not recognized the legitimacy of settlements in the disputed territories “for decades,” she told a press briefing...”

Since when is it the State department’s responsibility to say what is or is not legitimate in Israel?????


12 posted on 11/15/2013 10:26:48 AM PST by Boonie
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To: Rusty0604
They forget just how big the Israeli Nation was in the time of King David.
13 posted on 11/15/2013 10:34:27 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Boonie
Since when is it the State department’s responsibility to say what is or is not legitimate in Israel?????

Obama is trying to force us into recognizing International law which isn't legitimate either...

14 posted on 11/15/2013 1:52:01 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Rusty0604

Diplomats, floating their evil messages on papyrus back and forth across the oceans for their constituent slave masters.


15 posted on 11/15/2013 2:23:01 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Thursday. The U.S. has not recognized the legitimacy of settlements in the disputed territories “for decades,”

That’s just a flat-out, bald-faced LIE.

Thanks Rusty0604.

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16 posted on 11/17/2013 2:04:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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Amongst the many points ignored by the administration and advocates of the "palestinians"

The binding document is the British Mandate, incorporated by the UN, which required Britian to settle Jews in the Jewish Homeland, what today is Israel, Gaza, the West Bank, and Jordan. Modified at San Remo to exclude Jordan which was gifted to the Hashemites of Saudi Arabia. Existing non Jewish residents are not to be disturbed, but the word Arab doesn't appear in the Mandate. Throughout British records of the Mandate period the word palestininian appears frequently. It refers to the Jews living in palestine, which is how they referred to the Jewish Homeland.

Jews move into "East" Jerusalem, Sudea and Sumaria, formerly Gaza and the Sinai, of their own free will. They are not "transferred". Nor have Arabs been transferred out of those lands, nor from Israel. The only transfers to have taken place were the forced transfer of Jews from Judea and Samaria by Jordan, and of Jews from Gaza from Israel. I suppose those could be war crimes.

The land is disputed, not occupied. There never has been an independent Arab state in what is referred to as palestine today. It was controlled by the British through the mandate period, part of Turkey for four centuries or so. Prior to that an assortment of Arab (from Arabia, not local) and Christian kingdoms. Before that, the Romans, before that it was Israel. With brief periods of occupation by Greeks and Babylonians.

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17 posted on 04/17/2016 7:39:36 AM PDT by SJackson (Oh my God, she's so beautiful and she's so little!, Huma first impression of Hillary)
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To: quadrant

See post 17, illegitimate since they don’t like it. That’s been the American position for decades, both Democrat and Republican administrations have not liked Jews living where they choose. Illegal, that would be a hard case to make, though in most international venues “jury nullification” would doom Israel. The OJ effect.


18 posted on 04/17/2016 7:42:02 AM PDT by SJackson (Oh my God, she's so beautiful and she's so little!, Huma first impression of Hillary)
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To: Iscool
Obama is trying to force us into recognizing International law which isn't legitimate either...

Note 17 and 18. International law would come down on Israel's side, though they'd lose.

19 posted on 04/17/2016 7:42:46 AM PDT by SJackson (Oh my God, she's so beautiful and she's so little!, Huma first impression of Hillary)
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To: Rusty0604

soebarkah’s tough on Israel, but shows his true pansy self when it comes to dealing with America’s real enemies.


20 posted on 04/17/2016 1:58:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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