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Pete Rose has paid his debt. Let him back into the game
NBC Sports ^ | November 13, 2013 | Joe Posnanski

Posted on 11/14/2013 12:01:57 PM PST by EveningStar

...We are coming on 25 years of Pete Rose's banishment...

Pete Rose played baseball with an intensity and love that might be unmatched in the game's history. He cracked more hits and reached base more times than anyone ever. He represented a way to play baseball that inspired millions of people. Then, he gambled on games, breaking one of baseball's most cherished rules. Rose is 72 years old now, and I think it's time to let him back into the game. I don't think anyone should ask him to apologize again or come any cleaner than he has. I don't think anyone should expect Pete Rose to be something that he is not. It has been almost 25 years. He has paid his debt.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: baseball; gambling; no; peterose
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To: fungoking

I think Jackie Robinson saved the game.


81 posted on 11/14/2013 2:02:49 PM PST by WayneS (No problem is so great that it cannot be made worse by a "progressive" solution.)
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To: EveningStar; All

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

Certainly not before Shoeless Joe.

He lived here in Savannah for a while and we ride by his house and it still makes me mad that he didn’t do anything wrong and still got banned.

No way to Pete!


82 posted on 11/14/2013 2:05:56 PM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: mfish13

Pete never gambled with his life - using steroids and drugs - in order to set an illegitimate record. He gambled on his own team to win. He had a gambling addiction. Lots of people do.

Holding a grudge for the sake of holding a grudge is unhealthy. His record as a player stands and he’s been used as a bad example long enough. Murderers get out of prison in less time than Pete has been disgraced.


83 posted on 11/14/2013 2:08:52 PM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: dfwgator
I say “No”.....The one thing that will destroy baseball is if the integrity of the game is brought into question....having harsh penalties for throwing/betting on games is the only way to protect the game.

I agree. If fans cannot trust that the game is on the up-and-up, then baseball is no better than wrestling.

But baseball lost its integrity when the juiced up players started shattering the records of past players.

84 posted on 11/14/2013 2:10:55 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: EveningStar
One reason Pete Rose is so fascinating is that of all baseball players, he had the most unique career. See Most Unique Players with the Lowest Similarity Scores at baseball-reference.com
85 posted on 11/14/2013 2:14:08 PM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: EveningStar

Claims his Dad would have straightened him out.
Well, too bad. He was a man by then.


86 posted on 11/14/2013 2:16:49 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: sitetest

FUPR, with a corked PR4192 bat sideways.


87 posted on 11/14/2013 2:19:10 PM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: EveningStar

Munson firstthen Rose...yes too both


88 posted on 11/14/2013 2:38:18 PM PST by Madhattan
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To: Resolute Conservative

McGuire, Bonds and Arod are not in.

And, much of Rose’s memorabilia is in.

They only thing Rose doesn’t have in the Hall is his bust and the satisfaction of knowing he was voted in.


89 posted on 11/14/2013 2:50:30 PM PST by kailbo
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To: EveningStar
No. He knew the rule posted in every major league dugout, and he broke it.

And, trust me, as a student of the game Pete Rose knew who Shoeless Joe Jackson was.

90 posted on 11/14/2013 3:03:01 PM PST by Scoutmaster (I'd rather be at Philmont)
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To: EveningStar

I say no. He besmirched the game.


91 posted on 11/14/2013 3:06:31 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: EveningStar

No.


92 posted on 11/14/2013 3:41:01 PM PST by buffaloguy
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To: EveningStar

I don’t care either way. However, the excuse not to let him back in better not be ‘to keep integrity in the game.’ What integrity?


93 posted on 11/14/2013 3:46:30 PM PST by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: discostu
"... it’s what happens when you get in debt to people that live on the wrong side of the law."

I understand the idea of that, but I think the " people that live on the wrong side of the law" line was crossed a long time ago in many more ways than gambling. In a sense pro sports has become much like Washington DC where some laws are posted as window dressing but no one really concerns themselves about it all that much.

94 posted on 11/14/2013 4:01:54 PM PST by Baynative (Wake me up early, be good to my dogs and teach my children to pray.)
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To: MinuteGal
Good evening lovely lady.

In my salad days, I played womens' professional baseball (hardball overhand pitching).

I've known you for over fifteen years, and didn't know that. Cool. Next time we get together, the First lady and I will bring a ball, bat, and gloves.

5.56mm

95 posted on 11/14/2013 4:06:23 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: EveningStar

Yes to Hall of Fame, but he should not be allowed to give a speech at the ceremony.


96 posted on 11/14/2013 5:09:03 PM PST by sharkhawk (Mr Gorbachev, tear down this wall.)
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To: henkster

My son and I met Bob Feller several times and asked him about Rose. He said with all the rules in baseball, only a couple are posted in EVERY clubhouse and one of them is about gambling.


97 posted on 11/14/2013 5:13:48 PM PST by Mean Daddy
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To: EveningStar

Every baseball fan that is worthy of being called a baseball fan knows about Rose and will pass that on. It doesn’t matter if he will ever get in. The reason the baseball hall is better than other halls of fame is because they care enough about it enough to not have a rule that says a minimum number of players absolutely have to go in each year. Things like not having Rose in only add to the worth of actually getting in. Any other sport/endeavor he would have probably been in a while ago, in my opinion.

Freegards


98 posted on 11/14/2013 5:14:00 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: Mean Daddy

There is a plaque next to Bob Feller’s crew berth on the USS Alabama in Mobile. And of course a statue of him outside Jacobs Field (it will always be Jacobs Field).

He was what baseball should be about. A HOF player and person all the way.


99 posted on 11/14/2013 5:28:53 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: EveningStar

I always thought the Hall of Fame was intended to recognize the game’s great players. He was certainly that. Banning him from the game for life is more than sufficient punishment for his offense. Let’s not also pretend he wasn’t a great player. Waiting until he dies borders on being petty and vindictive, IMO.


100 posted on 11/14/2013 5:34:31 PM PST by LibWhacker
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