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How Deep Will Obama Dig This Hole?
Political Realities ^ | 11/13/13 | Mike Miller

Posted on 11/13/2013 2:45:12 PM PST by LD Jackson

Speeches and campaigning won't overcome Obama's credibility gap until he can be honest with the American people!

Most Americans are trusting people. They take someone at their word until they have reason to believe that person is not being honest with them. The same applies to the President of the United States who by virtue of the office he holds commands a degree of respect and trust. But only if he upholds the highest standard of veracity. Obama has consistently failed to meet that standard. Thus, it's no surprise respect and trust in him are rapidly declining.

Twenty nine times on recorded video Obama made the sweeping and emphatic promise “if you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan, period.” The total number may be as high as 40. And, on the White House web site, in a post titled "Facts are Stubborn Things" Obama's broken pledge is still prominently displayed. Responding to intense criticism Obama is took the old Washington sidestep and revised history last week when he said "what we said was you could keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law was passed.”

The problem is that he never said that and millions are finding out the hard way that what he said was not true. That includes many supporters of Obama like Cathy Wagner in Colorado:

Wagner and her husband retired early. She was a nurse for 35 years and championed Obamacare, until she received a letter from her insurance company saying it was canceling her policy.

“I was really shocked … all of my hopes were sort of dashed,” Wagner said. “’Oh my gosh President Obama, this is not what we hoped for, it’s not what we were told.’ “

She was shocked further to learn that for the same coverage she would pay 35 percent more and have a higher deductible.

“Our premium for next year is going up to over $1,000 a month for two of us and we’re two fairly healthy individuals,” Wagner said.

In response to the furor Obama told Chuck Todd of NBC News: "I am sorry that they are finding themselves in this situation based on assurances they got from me." Not good enough says the editorial in the Hartford Courant:
President Obama lied, misled, misspoke — however you want to frame it — when he said that if you liked your health care plan, you could keep it, period, under his Affordable Care Act.

In fact, plans are getting canceled that are not compliant with the ACA's requirements of certain minimum benefits. This is a cruel surprise to many policyholders.

Mr. Obama said Thursday that he's sorry Americans are losing their insurance plans he'd assured them they could keep, but he didn't say he was sorry for making those promises.

Readers may recall the utterance of then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi who famously declared "we have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it." Thanks Nancy!

Squirming through the uncomfortable interview on NBC, despite the softballs of reporter Chuck Todd, Obama added:

PRESIDENT OBAMA: We tried to find a proven model -- we've seen it work in Massachusetts -- that would be as undisruptive as possible, and in good faith, tried to write the law in such a way that people could keep their care. Although, we really believe that ultimately, they're going to be better off when they're buying health care through the marketplaces. They can access tax credits, and they're benefiting from more choice and competition. But obviously, we didn't do a good enough job in terms of how we crafted the law.
Readers may recall the utterance of then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi who famously declared "we have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it." Thanks Nancy!

But both Obama and Pelosi were warned before the law was passed about the consequences we are now witnessing. In the big dog and pony show called a "White House Summit" on health care GOP Whip Rep. Eric Cantor (VA) warned Obama in very clear and direct terms. Cue the video to the 1:38 mark:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4O_AkcwoFwk

Notice Obama's rude and dismissive body language and how he talks to other people during Cantor's presentation. When Obama responds he chides Cantor for presenting the bill text as a prop. But it was that very point Cantor was attempting to make about the unknowns in the bill that are now coming back to bite Obama. It's a shame he didn't actually listen to what Cantor had said.

Obama is in trouble and he knows it. The latest Pew survey matches what polls are showing across the board. On issue after issue his approval is taking a deep slide.

What's Obama's reaction to all this? Will he start actually listening to Republicans? Nope. In a recent column Charles Krauthammer reports that Obama's strategy is to go out and campaign hard to defend himself. As if Obama hasn't already given enough speeches (54 and counting) on the subject of health care. From Krauthammer's column:

“I’ve got one more campaign in me,” [Obama] told grass-roots supporters Monday — a series of speeches and rallies, explains the New York Times, “to make sure his signature health care law works.” Campaigning to make something work? How does that work? Presidential sweet-talk persuades the nonfunctional Web portal to function?
Krauthammer asks at what points does "rhetoric trump[] reality" in Obama land and concludes: "Who will tell Obama that lies so transparent render rhetoric not just useless but ridiculous?" UPDATE: Qunnipiac Poll Says Obama is Dishonest The Pew Poll above isn't the only survey which shows Obama in deep trouble. They ALL do. But this is the first time the Quinnipiac poll shows more people think Obama is a liar who does not tell the truth.


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1 posted on 11/13/2013 2:45:13 PM PST by LD Jackson
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To: LD Jackson

I see no reason why an administration that has lied on virtually every point to get themselves to where they are will suddenly change tactics and start truthtelling. Where would that end? It’s inconceivable.


2 posted on 11/13/2013 2:49:33 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
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To: LD Jackson

Jug ears will dig to China. He’s a dumb azz.


4 posted on 11/13/2013 2:53:02 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: F15Eagle

The political fall of this clown will be much more spectacular than the political rise.

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He’s now on extremely thin ice. If he makes another misstep or gets caught in one more lie, its likely over as nobody will trust or believe him.

His own party is on the verge of an insurrection.


5 posted on 11/13/2013 2:56:28 PM PST by Starboard
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To: LD Jackson
Clinton was a pragmatist. When told by his brains trust that he had to listen to Robert Rubin and keep Wall Street happy, he said, "You mean my administration depends on a bunch of f . . . ing bond traders?" They said yes. So he did.

Obama is a pure, 100% Marxist ideologue. He won't give an inch because he has NEVER in his life been put in his place (in this PC world, I mean "taught a lesson"), either by other kids who beat him up or gave him a swirly or by political rivals. If he just once had been punched out, I would be very afraid of him, but as is, I do think he will keep the nose of the plane pointed down til it crashes.

6 posted on 11/13/2013 3:00:22 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: LD Jackson

It’s Bush’s fault, and time for another incendiary video.


7 posted on 11/13/2013 3:02:31 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: LD Jackson

Impeachment is a political tool. A popular President (even if impeached) will not be thrown out of office.

An unpopular President is a different matter.

Contrary to what the left wants us to believe, this President was never that popular. It will be interesting to see just when they begin asking, “What did he know, and when did he know it?”


8 posted on 11/13/2013 3:03:11 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: LD Jackson

Unfortunately until GOP get serious about ending ObamaCare...Obama will hold on as long as possible

We have even some on here pushing to keep ObamaCare to make the Dems look bad. That is just liberal nonsense.

You either end ObamaCare or you support it. Instead of pushing Illegal Alien Amnesty...it’s time to end ObamaCare


9 posted on 11/13/2013 3:03:17 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (2014: RINO Hunting Season)
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To: LD Jackson

I think we should all report Obama to his “fishy” website. Cuz Obamacare and his lies sure sound “fishy” to me.


10 posted on 11/13/2013 3:04:21 PM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

It’s getting to the point where he’s going to have to attack Iran to get the heat off of himself. It’s too late to go after Syria and I don’t see things getting better in the next couple of weeks.


11 posted on 11/13/2013 3:07:00 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: LD Jackson
obviously, we didn't do a good enough job in terms of how we crafted the law

He lied again. The ACA gave the administration quite a bit of latitude on what coverage people could keep and comply. HIS Department of HHS wrote the most restrictive interpretive regulation possible so that any change in a policy no matter how trivial results in cancellation.

12 posted on 11/13/2013 3:12:29 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: LD Jackson

How deep? ALL THE WAY

He has the hubris of a sociopath. He will not admit anything.

DENY DENY DENY BLAME BLAME BLAME. Create a crisis, distract, LIE.

Bankrupt, petty, self aggrandizing dictator.


13 posted on 11/13/2013 3:14:06 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: LD Jackson

OBAMA & PELOSI AT BOTTOM OF HOLE: "Hey you guys we gotta pass this before we can read it.. ARE YOU IN??!!!"

14 posted on 11/13/2013 3:14:46 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: F15Eagle
The political fall of this clown will be much more spectacular than the political rise.

We'll be very lucky to get rid of him before he takes us all down.


15 posted on 11/13/2013 3:16:31 PM PST by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: F15Eagle

If You Like Your Cheeseburger You Can Keep Your Cheeseburger!
We’re Going to Have to Pass This Cheeseburger to Find Out What’s In It!
http://skreened.com/snaptees2/obamacare-humor-dark-shirt


16 posted on 11/13/2013 3:17:48 PM PST by Jay Gatsby
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

“I was really shocked … all of my hopes were sort of dashed,” Wagner said. “’Oh my gosh President Obama, this is not what we hoped for, it’s not what we were told.’ “

Two problems with this idiot waking up too late: First, she actually believed that if Obama said it was so, then there really was a health care fairy and everyone would get unlimited, topnotch care for FREE or at least really, really cheap! Two, if she would have come out ahead on the deal and the whole rest of the country screwed, she would think Obamacare was great! typical liberal- stupid and selfish to the core!


17 posted on 11/13/2013 3:18:37 PM PST by usmom
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To: LD Jackson
"Who will tell Obama that lies so transparent render rhetoric not just useless but ridiculous?"

Normally when someone has gone this far off the rails for something this stupid, friends will stage an intervention. I doubt obongo has any friends though, really. I don't think anybody actually likes him as a person. He gets what he gives.

18 posted on 11/13/2013 3:19:52 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: LD Jackson

It will never be deep enough.


19 posted on 11/13/2013 3:27:54 PM PST by mulligan
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To: Attention Surplus Disorder

Obama’s whole life has been a lie, as proved by his fictional memoir LIES MY FATHER TOLD ME er I mean DREAMS FROM MY FATHER. Utter fantasy from beginning to end. Some one who’s built his career in this way can’t suddenly reverse course and start telling the truth, even occasionally. All the other lies will resurface. No can do.


20 posted on 11/13/2013 3:33:16 PM PST by Argus
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