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1 posted on 11/11/2013 9:16:13 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Well then the word “lie” has no meaning to those people. Newspeak, the officall ++good language of Minitruth.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 9:20:12 AM PST by DManA
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To: tobyhill
Kessler issued Four Pinocchios for the series of claims, though he doesn’t allege a lie. “I can’t get into someone’s head,” Kessler tells the Erik Wemple Blog via e-mail.

The Washington Post has never had any difficulty getting into someone's head if that someone happens to be a Republican.

3 posted on 11/11/2013 9:23:30 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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Host Bill O’Reilly found more “nuance” in the situation... Translation: The president was too clueless to lie.

O'Reilly is the clueless one.

4 posted on 11/11/2013 9:24:54 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: tobyhill
Is what he said untrue? Yes.
Did he know what he said was untrue? Yes.
Then it's a LIE.
5 posted on 11/11/2013 9:24:55 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: tobyhill

Bob Woodward, a pillar of the Washington Post, not only got into the heads of people, he heard entire conversations - over extended periods of time - when he was no where near the locations at which the conversations took place.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 9:25:41 AM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: tobyhill

It is sooo cut and dry that Obama lied, any news organization stating otherwise is definitely under the Administrations thumb.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 9:30:51 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: tobyhill
Bush and the Iraqi weapons of mass destruction -- every intelligence agency in the world said that WMD were there. Clinton said it. Kerry said it. Hillary said it.

Bush said it.

Well, the media decided that it was a lie when Bush said it, because the WMD were moved to Syria and so this business of Iraqi WMD suddenly became a Republican plot to lie us into war.

But Obamacare?? Well ... a lie is such a strong word ... shouldn't we all be more nuanced here?

8 posted on 11/11/2013 9:33:57 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: tobyhill

The media sucks. Cannot criticize their cult leader.


10 posted on 11/11/2013 9:34:15 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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I’m ok with he didn’t lie. Instead, he “promised.” And then he broke faith by doing nothing to insure that his promise was kept.

A lie to me involves something that exists. The law didn’t exist. But then again, his intention to keep his “promise” didn’t either. Period.

Lie? Broken promise? What’s the diff?


13 posted on 11/11/2013 9:48:20 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: tobyhill
Joe Wilson was right in warning us from the beginning.
15 posted on 11/11/2013 9:50:28 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: tobyhill

He cant be called a Liar because of his skin color . . ?
He lied to win an election,,, go ahead and say it.


16 posted on 11/11/2013 9:52:14 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: tobyhill
A lie is knowingly speaking an untruth. "Can't get into someone's head" implies O's intent was unsearchable...a half truth in itself, BECAUSE THERE IS A 3 YEAR RECORD OUTSIDE HIS HEAD THAT HE KNEW.

One must know what they say is untrue, and speak it anyway; therefore, not knowing it is untrue, and speaking it anyway is not a lie; just stupidity: cf true believer "truffers". By this standard, O is stupid; but we already knew that. Continuously repeating after he demonstratively knew is a lie AND stupid.

O willfully and with malice aforethought spoke what he had the power and authority to make true, by regulating his regulators; but instead, with knowledge, he made void his own words; and should have known he would eventually be caught out:

STUPID LIAR!!!
Tell me again, what was it that got Nixon impeached?
17 posted on 11/11/2013 9:55:24 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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Translation: The president was too clueless to lie.

O'Bloviator is pretty clueless himself.
It took him years to acknowledge that the Sandmaggots worldwide are out to kill pretty much everybody else.

His Harvard mind is so open that his brain fell out; years ago.

18 posted on 11/11/2013 10:01:52 AM PST by publius911 (At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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Media split over use of ‘lie’ in reference to Obama health-care promise (Obama LIED!)

Perhaps it's time to demand testing of all talking heads and bloviators, as well as candidates for high office, to take a "TOO STOOPID TO SERVE" test.

Criminals and sociopaths are clever enough to figure that the "I can't get into someone's mind" meme can neutralize any crime.

But more to the point...

A casual study of the word "lie" in any language will always reveal that:

THE MOST COMMON AND EFFECTIVE LIE AMONG ALL CRIMINALS IS THE LIE BY OMISSION!

Just watch the TV series "COPS" a few times and you'll see the comically obvious "masters" at it.
Or just watch CSPAN.

20 posted on 11/11/2013 10:16:04 AM PST by publius911 (At least Nixon had the good grace to resign!)
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O’Reilly is right about one thing Obama, Pelosi et al. neither knew what was in the thing.

Does that make them liars?
Or does it mean that not only did not know, but did not give a fugg what was in it.
Then after selling us down the river, Then they started the lies.

Fact is we still don’t know what is in it. It changes every day.Obama changes it, Sebelius changes it. God only knows who else changes it.

The thing is so full of regulations it can say anything they want it to say.

It’s the biggest piece of dung ever foisted on America and it should be tossed out in it’s entirety before we waste even more money and end up even deeper in the dog Crap.


24 posted on 11/11/2013 10:21:44 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: tobyhill

Wow, so not only the sheeperal believed that Obamacare meant free healthcare on demand,

but Reid, Pelosi, and Obama did, too?


28 posted on 11/11/2013 11:03:30 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: tobyhill

Has he outlawed calling him a liar? if not he’s the biggest liar I know outside sanitariums


30 posted on 11/11/2013 12:41:29 PM PST by Karliner ( Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28- 8:38"...this is the end of the beginning."WC)
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