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Hillary Clinton is the most formidable presidential frontrunner in modern era
The Manchester Guardian ^ | November 9, 2013 | Harry J. Enten

Posted on 11/11/2013 1:47:13 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Hillary Clinton remains the most formidable presidential nomination frontrunner for a non-incumbent in the modern era. As I wrote about last year, Clinton's combination of a number of factors made her strength pretty much unprecedented. Clinton has, if anything, become stronger over the last 12 months.

Clinton's polling among Democrats is still incredible. The latest Public Policy Polling (PPP) survey has her at 67% of the vote among Democrats nationally. That compares to 61% in December 2012. The fact that her numbers have if anything gone up is a very good sign for her. It shows that her numbers weren't merely inflated because she held the non-partisan secretary of state position, as they were for general election electorate.

Some might want to dismiss the predictiveness of early polling. Some may want to point to Clinton or Rudy Giuliani in 2008. The problem with that point of view in my opinion is that most early front-runners didn't put up anywhere near the same numbers Clinton is doing for 2016. Clinton was about 30pt lower in 2008 than she is now. Giuliani was about 35pt lower than Clinton now.

Other candidates too were simply not close. George W Bush was stuck in the mid 20s for the 2000 Republican nomination. His father was in the low 40s for 1988. Colin Powell was in the mid 20s and mid 30s for his 1996 and 2000 no-goes respectively. Bob Dole was in the high 30s for 1996....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; democrats; hillary; polls
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1 posted on 11/11/2013 1:47:13 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a sad fact that a woman who is as corrupt ,untruthful , and incompetent as this woman is as powerful as the article suggests.

It is a sorry recommendation for the Democrat party.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 1:51:43 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Benghazi.


3 posted on 11/11/2013 1:54:52 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Venturer

Lest we forget, Hillary Clinton was destined to get elected to the White House in 2008. Something tells me, there’s going to be another surprise underdog get the Democratic Party nomination in 2016 and it could be somebody few people know about right now. Nonetheless, the GOP is in such disarray that Democrats could nominate Bugs Bunny and he would still win in a landslide. Hillary has created too many enemies and has betrayed too many Democrats, they won’t let her win the nomination.


4 posted on 11/11/2013 1:57:33 AM PST by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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Quoth moron Harry J Enten:

The only candidate in my mind who could catch fire, Massachusetts' Senator Liz Warren, has already declared her support for Clinton. In fact, every single female Democratic senator is behind Clinton. What a difference that is from 2008.

Well, if Granny Warren, the fake Injun, says vote Hillary, then I guess she's the cat's meow.

Time to steamroller the cat with HillaryCare -> RomneyCare -> ObamaCare!

(Flat cats don't bounce)

5 posted on 11/11/2013 1:59:22 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think this article was originally published in 2006... Ha!

Don’t forget...Hillary is the world’s smartest woman, while Obama is the World’s smartest Negro.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 2:06:02 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: TexGrill

My guess if that truly is what is ‘destined’ it will be a real black American - one that was actually born here, grew up here and was “down with the struggle.” I don’t know who that could be, but he/she had better get going.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 2:07:43 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

I’m thinking it might be Wendy Davis in Texas.


8 posted on 11/11/2013 2:11:03 AM PST by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: TexGrill

Maybe, but it will be tough to overcome the “Abortion Barbie” moniker.


9 posted on 11/11/2013 2:13:42 AM PST by Gaffer
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Democrats are pro-abortion anyway. If she wins the Texas governor’s race, she will get the Democrat nomination. Her poll numbers in Texas continue to rise. She appears to be the next Barack Obama. This sounds unpleasant but the fact is that GOP voters are stuck with Chris Christie as their nominee and he will do worse in the general election than McCain or Romney. It’s gonna take about 10 years before Republicans start to realize they should act with unity.


10 posted on 11/11/2013 2:20:09 AM PST by TexGrill (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Six trivia questions to see how much history you know. Be honest, it’s kinda fun and revealing. If you don’t know the answer make your best guess. Answer all the questions (no cheating) before looking at the answers .

Who said it?
1) “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”

A. Karl Marx
B. Adolph Hitler
C. Joseph Stalin
D. None of the above

2) “It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...... And to replace it with shared responsibility,,,,,for shared prosperity.”

A. Lenin
B. Mussolini
C. Idi Amin
D. None of the Above

3) “(We) .....can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people.”

A. Nikita Khrushev
B. Josef Goebbels
C. Boris Yeltsin
D. None of the above

4) “We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own ... in order to create this common ground.”

A. Mao Tse Dung
B. Hugo Chavez
C. Kim Jong Il
D. None of the above

5) “I certainly think the free-market has failed.”

A. Karl Marx
B. Lenin
C. Molotov
D. None of the above

6) “I think it’s time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched.”

A. Pinochet
B. Milosevic
C. Saddam Hussein
D. None of the above

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Answers
(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004
(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007
(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007
(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005


11 posted on 11/11/2013 2:27:10 AM PST by dalereed
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Didn't show lose once already?

12 posted on 11/11/2013 2:35:29 AM PST by McGruff (Obama lied. Period!)
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To: TexGrill

Wendy Davis won’t be the Texas Governor, not by a long shot.


13 posted on 11/11/2013 2:40:23 AM PST by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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The BUTCHER OF BENGAZI!


14 posted on 11/11/2013 2:47:30 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfusbutcher)
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So, Guardian, what has changed for "the most formidable presidential frontrunner in modern era" in the five years since an unaccomplished mental light weight with a paper thin resume snatched the Democratic Party nomination from the grasp of this very same "smartest woman in the world"?
I mean, what's the use of being a leftist rag if you can't lie and propagandize, eh?
15 posted on 11/11/2013 2:55:57 AM PST by Amagi (Lenin: "Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Guardian is a far-left UK newspaper; nothing they say is to be taken as anything more than propaganda and disinformation.


16 posted on 11/11/2013 3:10:00 AM PST by Doug Loss
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To: Jimmy Valentine

Hey, when I see H. Clinton I think Benghazi too.


17 posted on 11/11/2013 3:26:46 AM PST by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just like she was in 2008.


18 posted on 11/11/2013 3:38:12 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Hillary Clinton remains the most formidable presidential nomination frontrunner for a non-incumbent in the modern era.

Doubtful. obama had something against her in 2008. That can pop up again.

19 posted on 11/11/2013 3:43:07 AM PST by Sarajevo
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Looks like the lord himself is going to have to help save America from itself, and those who would venerate this cold venal incompetent greedy old woman


20 posted on 11/11/2013 3:43:21 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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