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1 posted on 11/10/2013 12:09:18 PM PST by tobyhill
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Yup. He'll fix it up really good. Just be patient and trust him. He wouldn't lie to you.

I really believe the whole intent was to force everyone into the exchanges. How will the ACA fund itself when everyone is either receiving free healthcare or subsidies?

2 posted on 11/10/2013 12:16:58 PM PST by dhs12345
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Now, why would Republicans want to "save" these Democrats from losing the support of their constituencies in their Districts by sponsoring legislation that would only "rescue" the Administration and so-called "progressives" from having to incur the wrath of youth and Independents all over the nation who now are waking up and seeing the consequences of what has been wrought by their "rulers"?

Republicans already have a reputation from wresting victory from the jaws of defeat. Don't do it again, please.

Justice Roberts' next-to-last paragraph in his ruling on ACA reads:

"The Framers created a Federal Government of limited powers, and assigned to this Court the duty of enforcing those limits. The Court does so today. But the Court does not express any opinion on the wisdom of the Affordable Care Act. Under the Constitution, that judgment is reserved to the people." - Justice C. J. Roberts
Why not let "the People" decide on the law through the upcoming electoral process in 2014 and 2016, as that law was enacted and now impacts their lives, liberties, and property.

To "rescue" it is to prolong their misery and make its consequences to the elected representatives who voted for it lighter.

As for Landrieu and Hagan, "the People" of your states, as Hagan says, do deserve better than a government-imposed and taxpayer-funded collaboration between Democrats and insurance companies to come between themselves and their doctors and health care providers!

What the Senators really are saying is that the government must get its coercive "redistribution" mechanism working more efficiently than did the web site!

They know, as do their fellow Democrats, that the youthful victims may begin to see that the hand in their pockets is not their own voluntary charity, but that of the coercive hand of force.

There was, perhaps, an unintended, but telling, remark within the so-called statements of "apology" in the NBC interview this week.

With regard to Democratic "progressives'" intent with the so-called "Affordable" Care Act, the President claimed it was to cause people to choose its provisions:". . . because they want 'em, as opposed to because they're forced into it." - Barack Obama, NBC Interview, 11-07-13

The biggest lie of them all is this telling statement--else, why would there be a "penalty" (uh, a "tax," as Chief Justice Roberts calls it) for failure to participate??

Contrast Obama's statement with the honest wisdom of America's First President:

"Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like a fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." - George Washington

Youth of America, you were not asked, were you, if you "want" that added expense for insurance you probably will not need for several years? Bet you could use your earnings in those early years for getting your first apartment, your first car, etc., etc. But, no, you are being "forced" to use your hard-earned dollars to pay for other people's assorted unhealthy lifestyles, or the myriad of other "forced" coverages you don't need or want!

"However combinations or associations of [factions] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government - destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion." - George Washington

3 posted on 11/10/2013 12:20:24 PM PST by loveliberty2
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Few options for Obama to fix cancellations problem

Exactly!

One of the many reasons conservatives tried to stop ObamaCare before it was unleashed.


5 posted on 11/10/2013 12:21:08 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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BO didn’t say he would help.
He said he would “deal with” them.


8 posted on 11/10/2013 12:24:10 PM PST by 4Liberty (Some on our "Roads & Bridges" head to the beach. Others head to their offices, farms, libraries....)
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Still, a president can't just pick up the phone and order the Treasury to cut checks for people suffering from insurance premium sticker shock. Spending would have to be authorized by law.

NBC is still covering for the jug-eared Marxist. By law he couldn't exempt Congressional staffers but he did. By law he couldn't exempt unions but he did.

Pat Caddell called it. Do you believe it yet?

Pat Caddell slams the media: They have become an “enemy of the people” Sept. 29, 2012(video 26:00)

Emotional Pat Caddell on the MSM ignoring Benghazi: “These people have no honor!” Oct. 27, 2012 (video at link 4:06)

The MSM are enemies of the people!

10 posted on 11/10/2013 12:32:34 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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Still, a president can't just pick up the phone and order the Treasury to cut checks for people suffering from insurance premium sticker shock.

WTF? Such MSM idiocy. That's a ridiculous strawman.

The Prez simply needs to place a call to his HHS and tell them to change the HHS regulations that they wrote for the ACA, and simply allow everyone to grandfather their existing plans.

11 posted on 11/10/2013 12:33:19 PM PST by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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The only way to fix 0-care is to scrap it completely.

13 posted on 11/10/2013 12:38:54 PM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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PROBLEM SOVLED

Barrys enlisted....... the expert help.... of one Chris Christie....IT Expert extraordinaire!!


14 posted on 11/10/2013 12:39:03 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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All these people will get their insurance plans back just as soon as we see Jesus ride bare ass naked on a bicycle down Broadway in New York.

Obamacare: The buzzards continue to tear and shred the carcass.

16 posted on 11/10/2013 12:41:20 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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He could just have the gubmint pick up the tab for the difference in price, essentially giving everyone a subsidy.

Why not? It’s “free money” and he really wants the gubmint to be the single payer anyway. And it’s not like Obama gives a rats about the Constitution or rule of law.


17 posted on 11/10/2013 12:42:47 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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Why the heck are we focusing on Obama? Look at all the people whose policies have been cancelled and treatments suspended. Look at all the doctors who have lost their patient base.

There should be torches and pitchforks in DC right now. This is costing lives. And it has nothing to do with the website.


18 posted on 11/10/2013 12:46:06 PM PST by livius
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Obama and the media know the one and only way to “fix” it is to completely scrap it but they will continue to do the kabuki dance.
19 posted on 11/10/2013 12:46:49 PM PST by tobyhill
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Here's a blog I came across by a guy who supposedly knows the ins and outs of the website fixes.

http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-obamacare-rolloutweek-five.html

20 posted on 11/10/2013 12:48:52 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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Obama, in an NBC interview Thursday, said "I am sorry" to people who are losing coverage and had relied on his assurances that if they liked their plan, they could keep it.

He didn't really apologize. He did that thing people do when they don't really want to say they are sorry and they really aren't sorry.

He said that he was sorry that people felt bad about his lie.

Hugh difference.

23 posted on 11/10/2013 1:07:25 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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State insurance commissioners have already approved the plans that will be offered for next year. It may be too late to wind back to where things stood at the beginning of this year.

And it's too late, baby, now it's too late.

24 posted on 11/10/2013 1:12:27 PM PST by MUDDOG
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Obama, in an NBC interview Thursday, said "I am sorry" to people who are losing coverage

I was hoping for a Japanese style apology....

....guess he doesn't have the stomach for it.

25 posted on 11/10/2013 1:21:05 PM PST by spokeshave (Obamacare is planned, just like the planned famine by the Russians to eliminate the Ukrainians.)
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I just received this notice in the mail. If i want to keep my insurance, I will have to accept a premium increase of 276% to $254.00! That is $254/mo for someone in their 20's who is never sick! The ultimate goal has to be single payer.
26 posted on 11/10/2013 1:24:44 PM PST by JacobChBE
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Why didn’t they want to implement the Afraudable Scam Act beginning in 2012 instead of 2013? After all all these problems are “unexpected”!


30 posted on 11/10/2013 1:49:33 PM PST by bonehead4freedom
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There is no solution for 2014

No federal legislation can remedy the problems for those that lost their insurance.

Absent the insurance, they will be turned away from their normal care. It is a disaster for millions

It is a worse disaster for Democrats


32 posted on 11/10/2013 1:57:30 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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The focus appears to be on easing the impact for a specific group: people whose policies have been canceled and who don't qualify for tax credits to offset higher premiums.

All by design. The insurance companies could not afford that risk.

34 posted on 11/10/2013 2:03:33 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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