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Few options for Obama to fix cancellations problem (Obama and the media continue with the lies)
nbc ^ | 11/10/2013 | RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR

Posted on 11/10/2013 12:09:18 PM PST by tobyhill

resident Barack Obama says he'll do everything he can to help people coping with health insurance cancellations, but legally and practically his options appear limited.

That means the latest political problem engulfing Obama's health care overhaul may not be resolved quickly, cleanly or completely.

White House deputy spokesman Josh Earnest said Friday that the president has asked his team to look at administrative fixes to help people whose plans are being canceled as a result of new federal coverage rules. Obama, in an NBC interview Thursday, said "I am sorry" to people who are losing coverage and had relied on his assurances that if they liked their plan, they could keep it.

The focus appears to be on easing the impact for a specific group: people whose policies have been canceled and who don't qualify for tax credits to offset higher premiums. The administration has not settled on a particular fix and it's possible the final decision would apply to a broader group.

Still, a president can't just pick up the phone and order the Treasury to cut checks for people suffering from insurance premium sticker shock. Spending would have to be authorized by law.

(Excerpt) Read more at nbcnews.com ...


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To: Cyropaedia

Also not mentioned is the fact that this insurance, as he calls it, doesn’t pay for their former doctors, hospitals or treatments. It may pay for Sandra Fluke’s birth control, but it’s not going to pay for somebody’s cancer treatment or heart valve surgery.


21 posted on 11/10/2013 12:49:40 PM PST by livius
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To: 4Liberty

He didn’t say he was sorry he lied either. He said he’s sorry people are losing their insurance. Two totally different things.


22 posted on 11/10/2013 12:50:33 PM PST by sheana
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To: tobyhill
Obama, in an NBC interview Thursday, said "I am sorry" to people who are losing coverage and had relied on his assurances that if they liked their plan, they could keep it.

He didn't really apologize. He did that thing people do when they don't really want to say they are sorry and they really aren't sorry.

He said that he was sorry that people felt bad about his lie.

Hugh difference.

23 posted on 11/10/2013 1:07:25 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: tobyhill
State insurance commissioners have already approved the plans that will be offered for next year. It may be too late to wind back to where things stood at the beginning of this year.

And it's too late, baby, now it's too late.

24 posted on 11/10/2013 1:12:27 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: tobyhill
Obama, in an NBC interview Thursday, said "I am sorry" to people who are losing coverage

I was hoping for a Japanese style apology....

....guess he doesn't have the stomach for it.

25 posted on 11/10/2013 1:21:05 PM PST by spokeshave (Obamacare is planned, just like the planned famine by the Russians to eliminate the Ukrainians.)
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To: tobyhill
I just received this notice in the mail. If i want to keep my insurance, I will have to accept a premium increase of 276% to $254.00! That is $254/mo for someone in their 20's who is never sick! The ultimate goal has to be single payer.
26 posted on 11/10/2013 1:24:44 PM PST by JacobChBE
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To: JacobChBE

When Obama said your premium would go down, he meant on “Cost of all other changes not specified above.”


27 posted on 11/10/2013 1:29:20 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: Iron Munro

28 posted on 11/10/2013 1:35:49 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Cyropaedia

Bingo! Probably 99% of what we are suffering through is due to “The Secretary shall determine…” regulatory language which was enacted in the law. The law itself doesn’t say very much; all it does is empower “The Secretary” to enable and enforce the law as she sees fit. A simple call to Sibelius would fix the problem.

Rush has pointed this out repeatedly the last couple weeks. Obama could very simply fix all these problems and alleviate great medical and financial hardships with a call to the secretary, but he won’t do it because his real goal is to put all the insurance companies out of business.


29 posted on 11/10/2013 1:49:04 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: tobyhill

Why didn’t they want to implement the Afraudable Scam Act beginning in 2012 instead of 2013? After all all these problems are “unexpected”!


30 posted on 11/10/2013 1:49:33 PM PST by bonehead4freedom
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To: livius
There should be torches and pitchforks in DC right now. This is costing lives. And it has nothing to do with the website.

That is what is really troubling me…where is the popular uprising? Why aren't we mobilizing against this tyranny? Where are the leaders?

In the early 30s there were HUGE tax revolts all over the country against local taxes that were causing people to lose their homes. And people got organized without the Internet…heck, most of them probably didn't even have phones. Where is the revolt today? The nation's people are crying out desperately for a leader on this, and nobody is answering the call.

The Forgotten Tax Revolt of the 1930s

...While most tax leaguers emphasized conventional legal approaches, a few pressed more radical measures. The best known was the Association of Real Estate Taxpayers in Chicago, which led one of the largest tax strikes in American history. At its height in 1933, it had 30,000 paid members, a budget of $600,000, and a weekly radio show. The strikers so angered Mayor Anton Cermak in 1932 that he threatened to cut off their city water. During a special visit to Washington, D.C., Cermak implored Congress to send "money now or militia later." It did neither.

Condemned as "anarchists" and "public enemies," the strikers, as well as mainstream tax leaguers, faced a level of invective that matched any endured by tea partiers. Noting that the city had a 40% tax delinquency, the head of an organization of Chicago school principals charged "Forty percent citizenship is no less dangerous and perilous to the government of America today than it was in the days of Benedict Arnold."

By the middle of the 1930s, the tax revolt was largely over. Tax leaguers achieved property tax relief, mainly due to the imposition of new post-Prohibition "sin" taxes, mostly on alcohol. But the relief was only short term.

Moreover, tax leaguers often proved unable to respond to counterattacks and waffled when proposing specific areas to cut. Progressive "good government" reformers brilliantly found ways to channel lingering tax-revolt sentiment into relatively harmless proposals to make government more "efficient" rather than cut it down. New Deal administrators also contributed to the demise of the movement by denying aid to localities "hampered" by tax limitation laws, and by requiring any mortgagor to give priority to back taxes.


31 posted on 11/10/2013 1:56:50 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: tobyhill

There is no solution for 2014

No federal legislation can remedy the problems for those that lost their insurance.

Absent the insurance, they will be turned away from their normal care. It is a disaster for millions

It is a worse disaster for Democrats


32 posted on 11/10/2013 1:57:30 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert
It is a worse disaster for Democrats

Are you sure. LoFos are writing to papers that it "is all the fault of the evil, greedy, capitalist insurance companies…they are the ones canceling plans, raising the rates and hiking deductibles. Obama is pure as the driven snow in all this."

33 posted on 11/10/2013 2:03:00 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: tobyhill
The focus appears to be on easing the impact for a specific group: people whose policies have been canceled and who don't qualify for tax credits to offset higher premiums.

All by design. The insurance companies could not afford that risk.

34 posted on 11/10/2013 2:03:33 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

No, that canard is no longer viable


35 posted on 11/10/2013 2:09:13 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert

Ha! It was printed in today’s SJ Mercury News. Leftists are preaching it, as we write. And they believe it. As will most LoFos.


36 posted on 11/10/2013 2:11:11 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The fact it was printed is meaningless in the current climate.
37 posted on 11/10/2013 2:21:09 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bigbob
He could just have the gubmint pick up the tab for the difference in price, essentially giving everyone a subsidy.

Sort of like a government financial perpetual motion machine, right?

So far, the people who lost their healthcare insurance are the people who were paying for it on their own.
(These people are part of the small remaining group of Americans known as "Taxpayers")

Obama can just extort more money from the taxpayers who lost their insurance and use it to subsidize Obamacare policies for those very same taxpayers.

The subsidy money will then go directly to the insurance companies (the ones that Obama has been demonizing) to help pay for the new Obamacare insurance plans the people (taxpayers) do not want.

The insurance companies will be happy to accept the new windfall from Obama.
In fact they will be so happy they will donate a good portion of it to democrat party candidates in the upcoming elections to show their appreciation.


38 posted on 11/10/2013 2:49:38 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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39 posted on 11/10/2013 2:50:08 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: tobyhill
"Still, a president can't just pick up the phone and order the Treasury to cut checks for people suffering from insurance premium sticker shock. Spending would have to be authorized by law."

ROFL Stop! Stop! Yer killin' me here. Law? hussein don't abide by any law. Laws are for the peasants.

40 posted on 11/10/2013 2:50:11 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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