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Senator Proposes Law: 'If You Like Your Health Plan, You Can Keep It Act'
The Weekly Standard ^ | Oct 25, 2013 | DANIEL HALPER

Posted on 10/25/2013 9:45:13 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike

Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin will propose a new law next week called: "If You Like Your Health Plan, You Can Keep It Act."

“One of the most important promises made by President Obama and Democrat congressional leadership to promote the Affordable Care Act was that Americans who were satisfied with their health plans could keep them. That promise has been broken. More than a million Americans have been notified that the plans they like with the coverage they have chosen have been canceled. Millions more Americans will have the plans of their choice canceled in months to come,” says Senator Johnson in a statement.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: obamacaredefrauds; obamacarelies; rinjognson; youcankeepit
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To: WayneS

LOL!


41 posted on 10/25/2013 10:45:03 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Beautiful - let the Democrats explain why it is a bad idea.


42 posted on 10/25/2013 10:47:43 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: grania
What’s wrong with taking the mandate out of Obamacare?

The individual mandates are supposed to support it for the first few years. Without those, it crashes and burns. You want that, but most of the pols don't.
43 posted on 10/25/2013 10:55:41 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Timber Rattler

He’s trying to rehabilitate himself after what he did to Cruz. That’s all this is. He’s making the talk show rounds this morning making a fool out of himself IMO. But the true believers will lap it up, accuse people of joining a “circular firing squad”, and assert that Ron is on our side but he just has different tactics. This must be one of them. Call me unimpressed.


44 posted on 10/25/2013 11:19:50 AM PDT by conservativegranny
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Not in total. Some of the plan cost increases are because the plans are mandated to cover a lot of specific services, like pregnancy care...even if you’re 60 years old...and a man. So if this law says the insurance companies can keep offering plans without that mandated stuff, it’s a good thing.

I do like this proposal. But obviously it doesn’t eliminate the fact that new sign-ups will still be under the new plans with the stupid mandates, so it’s not a cure-all for even one part of Barrycare.


45 posted on 10/25/2013 11:23:09 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: TomGuy
(without those (the mandate) it crashes and burns

Sure does. The thing is, that's the way to put the pols on the hook. "You want Obamacare? You can have Obamacare. But it won't be a mandate." Remind them that when Obama was campaigning against hillary, he promised his health program would be voluntary. How could anyone vote against that and be re-elected?

I'd particularly enjoy watching the RINOs squirm. Methinks a real lot of them actually want Obamacare since their corporate paymasters in insurance and other industries have found a way to profit from it.

46 posted on 10/25/2013 11:23:25 AM PDT by grania
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To: TomGuy
Seriously, Senator Johnson? Insurance companies are already cancelling policies. A new law isn’t going to help that. The old policies do not meet the minimum requirements Obamacare regulates.

That's the point of the law -- allow people to go back to whatever plan they had before the mandate, and essentially be waivered from the new requirements (both purchaser and seller).

It's brilliant, politically, because it takes Obama's promise and shoves it right back down his throat. It also will resonate with anyone who lost their plan.

47 posted on 10/25/2013 11:26:42 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: Venturer
All of the crap they added to policies would have to go.

Which would be a good thing! If only a small percentage of plans have to cover all that mandated crap, even if the costs were evened out aross all plans, we'd all be paying less.

But you can't underestimate the PR benefit of having Obama veto a law like this either, or the Dems voting against it. This is the kind of tactic we need to take advantage of the Dems disastrous coup attempt on the health care industry. This is an ad you can run in the next campaign.

48 posted on 10/25/2013 11:28:55 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: DoodleDawg
So does the law force companies to keep offering the plans that they cancelled?

If they had the option, I'm sure some would if they thought it enticed their customers to stay. That's how the free market works.

49 posted on 10/25/2013 11:31:11 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I especially like it that it is entitled such that it points out that Obama was lying.


50 posted on 10/25/2013 11:33:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Amendment10
And as big and ambiguous as it already is, Constitution-ignoring lawmakers are effectively making it even bigger with this additional legislation.

No one's yet invented the magic wand that you can wave to repeal Obamacare. Therefore we need to win elections to repeal it. To do that, you get Dems on record voting against something as voter-friendly as this legislation and then run ads telling how they voted a year from now. If it passes, then we take credit for introducing it.

51 posted on 10/25/2013 11:37:12 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

You can’t keep your insurance if the insurance company cancels your ass. There then ain’t nothing to keep.


52 posted on 10/25/2013 11:37:21 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: kevkrom

When your opponent is destroying themselves, don’t get involved.


53 posted on 10/25/2013 11:37:31 AM PDT by Ray76 (You can't win if you don't fight. Remember the Barrycades!)
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To: Sybeck1
Where was he with this weeks ago??

It wasn't an issue with the public then because relatively few had gotten their cancellation notices at that time.

54 posted on 10/25/2013 11:38:15 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
I've never heard anything so stupid.

Does Senator Johnson not grasp the fact that the plans he wants to allow people to keep no longer exist?

I said, in March 2010, that the PPACA was a work of pure Leninist destruction, which is exactly what is unfolding. If Johnson is an example of how we respond, we are screwed.

Mit der Dummheit, kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens.

55 posted on 10/25/2013 11:44:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble
Does Senator Johnson not grasp the fact that the plans he wants to allow people to keep no longer exist?

Do you not grasp the fact that they don't exist because Obamacare said they had to be cancelled for non-compliance with the law? Johnson would allow those plans to stay grandfathered in. Now I would agree the cost of the plan might not be able to be the same because of the rule that people with pre-existing conditions can't be charged more now, but at least the coverage in the plan could be the same. Costs on plans already go up every year, so Obama's promise was never about the cost of the plan. The companies would simply be able to say if you had a plan that they cancelled, you can request to get it back, if Johnson's law passed.

56 posted on 10/25/2013 11:54:41 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Ray76
When your opponent is destroying themselves, don’t get involved.

The opponent already has the knife in him but this let's us twist it. It can turn an injury into a death blow.

57 posted on 10/25/2013 11:59:21 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: JediJones
The companies would simply be able to say if you had a plan that they cancelled, you can request to get it back, if Johnson's law passed

"Get it back"?

What does that mean? Does it mean that companies would be required to reassemble plans they have eliminated, and do a 2014 rollout?

Or does it just mean that, IF the companies desire to resurrect the now eliminated plans and IF those plans are priced correctly that they can CHOOSE to offer them?

58 posted on 10/25/2013 12:38:11 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: JediJones

F-fa-fa-free market?!?!?? Arrest that man!


59 posted on 10/25/2013 12:44:26 PM PDT by Ray76 (You can't win if you don't fight. Remember the Barrycades!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Even then the costs imposed in shifting over and then back will necessarily cause an increase in premiums for no change coverage, so you still can't keep your policy, as price was part of the policy.

So by your logic we can't repeal Obamacare in full either, since the "shifting" back and forth is too damaging.

60 posted on 10/25/2013 1:08:59 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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