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1 posted on 10/22/2013 11:34:05 AM PDT by lowbridge
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Who didnt see this coming. The pretzel logic is painful.


2 posted on 10/22/2013 11:36:41 AM PDT by 556x45
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Another reason we need to oppose any new gun control legislation.


3 posted on 10/22/2013 11:36:51 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Might I suggest that these judges take the time to read what the writers of the 2nd amendment said what it means.


4 posted on 10/22/2013 11:38:02 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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IIRC miller decision was the result of the defendant not showing up to defend their right to possess a Sawed off shotgun. The fact that short barreled shotguns were commonly used by the military was not presented to the justices.


5 posted on 10/22/2013 11:38:49 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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Well then, perhaps this court is prepared to define the difference between a modern hunting rifle and an AK, without using the phrase “looks scary”.
6 posted on 10/22/2013 11:38:49 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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"...for lawful purposes such as hunting or self-defense."

Hmm...I must have overlooked that wording in the 2nd amendment. Probably right next to where its says "musket loaders only."
7 posted on 10/22/2013 11:39:18 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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In a day and age where drug cartels roam freely in parts of the US armed with real AK 47s for example, their own statement in support of self defense requires support for citizens to be equally armed.

Besides the 2cnd amendment doesn’t say anything about exceptions to this right. They get an F for the their decision.


9 posted on 10/22/2013 11:41:22 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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When the 2nd amendment was written all rifles were assault rifles.
10 posted on 10/22/2013 11:41:35 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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And they will be proven wrong....California courts are a joke


11 posted on 10/22/2013 11:42:56 AM PDT by Nifster
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Next the CA SC will decide that guns other than black powder guns are not “arms” therefore not protected. Later one or more members of the CA SC will be appointed to the USSC and rule the same way. I would say we are on a slippery slope but there is NO SLOPE. Its just straight DOWN.


12 posted on 10/22/2013 11:43:01 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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The court’s ruling is on this page. . .

http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/2013/10/ca-court-appeal-holds-second-amendment-doesnt-protect-semi-autos/


13 posted on 10/22/2013 11:43:11 AM PDT by deks
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So we just treat California, Maryland and New York as if they are outside of the United States? Works for me.


14 posted on 10/22/2013 11:43:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Obama's favorite game is Pin the Fail on the Honkey!)
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Wow! What a serious misrepresentation and interpretation of the 2A. Obviously, these "judges" are unaware of the history behind the 2A, that or they don't care.

And "self defense"? What do these "judges" think self defense is? What if you have to "self defense" yourself against a tyrannical government (you know, like the one not mentioned in the 2A!)?

15 posted on 10/22/2013 11:46:31 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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Actually, the AK’s protected by the second amendment would be the fully automatic ones. With optional grenade launcher.


16 posted on 10/22/2013 11:48:01 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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“the right secured by the Second Amendment is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose”

Actually, that’s EXACTLY the right it is meant to secure. Morons.


17 posted on 10/22/2013 11:48:03 AM PDT by servo1969
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18 posted on 10/22/2013 11:49:15 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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for lawful purposes such as hunting or self-defense

Actually the intent was to shoot the soldiers of a tyrannical government (like the King of England), but why bother pointing that out to a guy who would have been a Tory then.

21 posted on 10/22/2013 11:52:17 AM PDT by Regulator
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A case of:

The 2nd amendment means what ever we say it means not what is written there, you stupid peasants.


23 posted on 10/22/2013 11:53:28 AM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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And yet “assault weapons” are among the least powerful firearms a person can purchase.

but they look mean


25 posted on 10/22/2013 11:54:51 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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This should be overturned unless the government is going for the complete disarmament. You have to wonder why they are so eager to strip citizens of any weapon. What are they afraid of?

The United States Supreme Court already defined (MANY years ago) the weapons under the 2nd Amendment. Notice, they say nothing of hunting or self-defense. BTW, AKs make good hog hunting rifles.

United States v. Miller (1939)

In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.

27 posted on 10/22/2013 11:56:50 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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