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Study: Wind Power Costs Taxpayers Billions of Dollars
Townhall.com ^ | October 15, 2013 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 10/15/2013 11:32:48 AM PDT by jazusamo

According to a new study conducted by Texas Tech University Professor Dr. Michael Giberson for the Institute for Energy Research, the government and wind lobby aren't telling taxpayers the whole truth about how much wind energy really costs. The study comes as the wind lobby is set to receive another extension on massive subsidies with little results to show for it.

"As Big Wind's lobbyists fight tooth and nail to extend the wind Production Tax Credit, it is important that we look at the true costs of wind power to taxpayers and ratepayers," IER President Thomas Pyle said about the study. "Despite being propped up by government mandates and billion dollar subsidies for decades, wind power continues to be an expensive and boutique energy source that the American people cannot rely on for power when they need it. Although lobbyists for the wind industry prefer to downplay the real costs of wind power, Dr. Giberson has produced a fact-based study that demonstrates just how expensive it really is."

According to the study, wind energy costs taxpayers $12 billion per year and shows wind power costs $109 per megawatt hour, nearly double government estimates of just $72 per megawatt hour. The study also shows wind power doesn't decrease the cost of electricity as environmental groups and government advocates claim, but instead shifts costs onto taxpayers. In addition, wind energy subsidies allow those who start wind projects to easily game the system.

"Wind power projects often obtain additional production subsidies, and these subsidies allow the wind project owner to profit even when power prices go negative," the study states.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: coal; energy; epa; greenenergy; obama; subsidies; taxcredits; wind; windpower
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$109 per megawatt hour for wind power while 0bama and his EPA run coal generating plants out of business, little wonder he needs to keep raising debt ceiling.
1 posted on 10/15/2013 11:32:48 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Bump


2 posted on 10/15/2013 11:34:59 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: jazusamo

Plus these monstrosities kill a half million birds EVERY YEAR.


3 posted on 10/15/2013 11:37:17 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Exactly, and that was basically covered up until the last couple years.


4 posted on 10/15/2013 11:39:41 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

Wind power is nonsense. If it was viable, private industry would be developing it for a profit!

Time to eliminate the subsidies to wind and solar power. Then they’ll either stand or fall on their own merits.


5 posted on 10/15/2013 11:40:18 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Weep for the lost Republic! And keep your powder dry!!)
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To: jazusamo

$109 per megawatt hour for wind power while 0bama and his EPA run coal generating plants out of business, little wonder he needs to keep raising debt ceiling.

Don’t forget the icing on the cake, destruction of wildlife habitat, ugly structures destroying the view, and the absolute best, the slaughter of thousand upon thousands of raptors and migratory birds! I love that here in taxifornia they are banning lead bullets to save wildlife but the mayhem caused by windmills is OK because they are “earth” friendly.


6 posted on 10/15/2013 11:42:54 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: jazusamo

This has always been the problem with Wind power. It is just not cost effective at all. I’m all for energy options but wind especially the idea of fields of wind turbines is just dumb outside of limited applications. There is a huge cost of maintenance. There is huge risk especially if you put these things in areas like the great plains that are highly prone to tornados etc. Sure there are some big business guys who love the idea because these things are a guaranteed cash cow for them that goes on forever.

You just can’t beat coal and natural gas where energy production is concerned and todays coal plants in the US are extremely clean that is if you don’t buy into the stupid CO2 hysterics. Sure we can’t use coal and natural gas forever but we have hundreds of years to work things out and the last thing that is going to help is to neuter the US economy
which will slow technological development not increase it.


7 posted on 10/15/2013 11:43:15 AM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: Mastador1

You make an excellent point about CA banning lead bullets to save birds while promoting wind turbines, the enviro-nazis are most hypocritical.


8 posted on 10/15/2013 11:46:52 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Maelstorm

Agreed...The new EPA regs on coal plants is criminal, IMO. The people that came up with them should be prosecuted, at the least they should all be fired.


9 posted on 10/15/2013 11:50:58 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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That’s $1.09 per kW/hr! FReepers can look at their electricity bills and see how ridiculously expensive $1.09 per kW/hr is. I think 12 to 14 cents per kW/hr is a typical rate in most areas of the country.

I love to point out the poor results of wealth redistributionist programs, like EBT cards. However, there’s a whole different group of people who are also on welfare. I’m talking about all the industries, like wind power, sugar, and ethanol, that are sucking at government’s teat. If an industry is thoroughly dependent on subsidies to survive, than it’s an industry that deserves to die (or evolve into something that can pay its own way).

Just like welfare programs for the poor, government subsidies allow businesses to become lazy. In the long term, they rob our nation by rewarding businesses for being impractical and inefficient. Who knows what improvements, what amazing new technologies, will never be developed due to government interference in the free market?


10 posted on 10/15/2013 11:54:37 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Conservatives are not anarchists!)
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But it’s worth it because without one watt of electricity being produced,

windmills accomplish the primary goal of the left -

making them feel good as “good people” because they “care about the erf”.


11 posted on 10/15/2013 11:55:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Please bump the Freepathon or click above and donate or become a monthly donor!

12 posted on 10/15/2013 12:00:42 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: CitizenUSA

That’s correct on the kW/hr cost.

I hadn’t checked our rate for some but just had the wife give me the latest bill. We’re very fortunate here in the NW due to the amount of hydroelectric power generated on the Columbia river and others.

The rate here is 8.16 cents per kW/hr and there’s a blurb that states more than 75% of our electricity comes from hydropower.


13 posted on 10/15/2013 12:09:57 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo
Big Wind

Good name for it.

14 posted on 10/15/2013 12:17:25 PM PDT by MUDDOG
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According to the study, wind energy costs taxpayers $12 billion per year and shows wind power costs $109 per megawatt hour...

What a bunch of garbage. Saying wind energy "costs" taxpayers $12Bn/year because of the Production Tax Credit is like saying homeowners "cost" taxpayers $[ ]Bn/yr because of the mortgage deduction.

And if wind power costs $109MWh, why are so many wind farms in the US Midwest responding to power off-take solicitations from utilities with prices in the $25-35/MWh price range, FLAT over a 25 year period??

15 posted on 10/15/2013 1:14:34 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: jazusamo

Shhhh, here is a secret. Everyone of those wind turbines are full of copper wire.

You did not hear it from me.


16 posted on 10/15/2013 1:35:53 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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You have to work in the industry to get that one.


17 posted on 10/15/2013 1:37:02 PM PDT by hadaclueonce (dont worry about Mexico, put the fence around kalifornia.)
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To: jazusamo
According to the study, wind energy costs taxpayers $12 billion per year and shows wind power costs $109 per megawatt hour, nearly double government estimates of just $72 per megawatt hour.

109 is just barely ~50% greater than 72. How is that nearly double?!

18 posted on 10/15/2013 1:41:09 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Hope for the best. Prepare for the worst.)
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To: DTogo

I don’t know that that is what is says but it may.

From the report:

“The Production Tax Credit (PTC) for wind
power was scheduled to expire at the end of
December 2012. At the last minute, as part of
the “fiscal cliff” negotiations over the federal
budget, Congress passed the American
Taxpayer Relief Act which, among other
things, extended the PTC to all wind facilities
that ‘start construction’ by year-end 2013.1
The change in language from the wind plant
being required to be ‘in service’ to simply
requiring it be ‘under construction’ will allow
wind projects completed in 2014 and 2015 to
qualify for the subsidy, so long as a small
amount of expense is incurred in 2013.2 The
one-year renewal is projected to eventually
cost the federal budget more than $12 billion
in revenue. 3”

Correct me if I’m wrong but those prices of $25-35/MWh price range, FLAT over a 25 year period you quoted don’t include taxpayer subsidies and tax credits that the companies receive, do they?

If not it seems those selling prices would be much higher.


19 posted on 10/15/2013 1:48:59 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It’s not double and it’s the writer of this article. In the report it states it’s over a 50% increase.


20 posted on 10/15/2013 1:50:58 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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