Posted on 10/12/2013 5:49:46 AM PDT by rhema
On a cold morning this past January in Gresham, Oregon, Aaron Klein sat down with two customers at the bakery he owned with his wife, Sweet Cakes by Melissa. The two women, a bride and her mother, were making plans to purchase a wedding cake. Before discussing the details, Klein asked his customers a few standard questions. When would the wedding be? What was the groom’s name? At the second question, there was an awkward hesitation, and the mother explained that this would be a wedding between two brides. Klein politely but firmly told them that because of his and his wife’s Christian beliefs, they would not bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. Without a word, the bride and her mother got up and left.
About ten minutes later, the bride’s mother returned to the bakery and began to debate Klein using biblical references to claim that her daughter was created that way and there was nothing wrong with her marriage. Klein was firm, asserting that he would not be involved in a lesbian wedding. When he refused to back down, the woman left. About two weeks later, Klein received a complaint letter and an official investigation notice from the Oregon Department of Justice.
It wasn’t long before the Kleins’ story hit national media. They faced waves of harassment from gay rights sympathizers in the forms of mail, picketing, and social media pages dedicated solely toward boycotting their business.
They received death threats against their children. LGBT groups targeted other wedding vendors in the Gresham area, threatening to boycott them as well if they continued or agreed to do business with Sweet Cakes by Melissa.
“People would keep calling [other wedding vendors] until they stopped doing business with us. It’s racketeering is what it is,” Aaron Klein told
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There is no way in hell a G&d D@#n democrat is going to do my taxes and I don't patronize a business if I find out a democrat owns it.
Or a homo.
I love it when they put out political signs, and rainbow flags. Makes it easier to spot them and move on.
Perhaps I agree with your approach.
Take the order politely.
Lose the order, or create an unacceptable delay, or bake a shitty cake or a poorly decorated one, or show up with a dozen donuts because the order got mixed up, or trip walking in with it, or lose the delivery address.
Refund the money politely.
But better yet, bakeries who don’t want this business should stop doing it in general: “Sorry, we no longer do weddings.” Let wedding cakes become a task for the involved families to create.
Bands who don’t want to do gay weddings can stop doing weddings - let that be the responsibility of someone else. Same with photographers.
Two people, humbly standing before God and perhaps a few other witnesses, taking a vow of marriage - this should be the focus. It should be the only focus. The rest is fluff, often bordering on sacrilege in these times.
These vows, taken before God, families and perhaps a few others, ARE the wedding, they literally ARE the marriage that is being created. The rest is mere distraction. The solemnity of what one is vowing should not be distracted from with all the narcissistic and cultural crap that has come to create this social monster.
If clergy are sued or imprisoned because, out of conscience, they refuse to administer the vows to gays, that is a hill worth dying on. But I just can’t get worked up over the rest of this pre-wedding, wedding, and post-wedding turmoil.
I’ve pretty much run off any so called friends who are liberal....don’t miss them at all. Tired of their idiotic pap and sh!ty attitude....liberals for the most part are very angry people. My wife was upset at first but realizes now a lot of drama has left our lives. Some were relatives!!
Bingo!!! We have a winner!!!
That’s illegal, but onion and garlic powder are valid food products that can be used. At any rate this story was hashed over on FR many times and can be searched out. I guess the American Spectator’s author is behind the times, the referred to article is new.
When people get over their PC thinking and start mocking the homos back into the shadows with ugly humor and slurs the LGBT crowd will continue this. Are you aware that it is LGBT History Month in your public schools.
When will people rise up and start civil disobedience to roll this all back. Look in the mirrors Freepers, because this has been going on for decades. If you are > 50 years old, it is *your* fault.
oh for an edit button....
“When people get over their PC thinking and start mocking the homos back into the shadows with ugly humor and slurs the LGBT crowd will continue this. “
should be
“Until people get over their PC thinking and start mocking the homos back into the shadows with ugly humor and slurs the LGBT crowd will continue this. “
"Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with your might..." - Ecclesiastes 9:10
Accepting someone's money and then cheating them with poor work is not an option for a Christian or any other person who holds to moral values. The choice is between taking the job and doing it well, or not taking the job to begin with. What I admire most about bakery owners Aaron and Melissa Klein is their courage and honesty in this case. It would have been easier and "safer" to deny their convictions with a phony excuse, but they honored their Creator by standing up for His Truth in their lives and in their business.
Whom to fear, and whom to honor? All tyrants die and turn to dust, but the Living God reigns forever. God bless the Kleins!
Bullying involves embarrassment and intimidation. The answer of the baker should have been “Please don’t try to intimidate me. I would be embarrassed to make that type of cake.” And if that answer was answered with more anger and accusations rather then tolerance for diversity of thought, then the baker says “This is sexual harassment and I will will sue you for sexual harassment if you keep trying to intimidate me into doing something that will embarrass and demoralize me.” I am sure these same bakers, as Christians, also don’t bake cakes shaped like private body parts because they are Christians and it would be against their values. And being forced to do and go against their values would embarrass and demoralize them.
Stuff like that can get you sued, too. But if you keep a spotless bakery, there's nothing stopping you from keeping a few dead roaches or a live earthworm in an "order book" and opening it on the table during the interview. If the health department comes later in the week, the store will still be clean.
“Hey — this cake tastes like crap!”
It is! you wanna buy a toothbrush? old joke
At the point when government steps in to use force, this nonsense becomes slavery and an act of evil, rather than merely perversion. When you can no longer pick and choose if you want to work on a project or not, the entity using force to compel action is no longer the friend of any decent person, and the situation has crossed that terrible line into slavery.
> Stuff like that can get you sued, too
Subtlety is the key....: )
Seriously speaking, these bakers need to set up a means to identify those who project hate at them, and make what is called a “Reverse Class Action Suit”.
A class action suit is usually when an individual, like Bernie Madoff, or a corporation, does something that damages many people. As a “class” the people can join together to make a class action suit against the individual or corporation, without all of them having to directly participate in the lawsuit.
However, a reverse class action lawsuit is when a single individual, or family, are damaged by a large number of people who, while not in coordinated action against them, have all decided for a similar reason to harm them, defame them, interfere with them, or cause other damages.
The courts recognize that while individual action can be bad, a group action of this kind can be devastating, and cause considerable harm. Thus, to be able to sue all of them at once represents a great savings to the damaged party and the time of the courts.
About a year after Obama was elected the first time, I made a conscious decision to do the same thing. I didn’t have too many liberals as friends to begin with (a few old high school classmates and a couple of golf partners and a neighbor or two) but I started to disassociate myself from them completely. It was not that hard. I had become more politically oriented as I neared retirement and I realized these people were not going to be in my circle of friends and acquaintances that I enjoyed. I do have one nephew who is gay but he is a political conservative and doesn’t flaunt his sexuality out into the open at family functions. He keeps the gay part to himself even though the family knows his orientation.
But otherwise, I have eliminated all liberals and progressives (I had a neighbor lady tell me with a straight face that she wasn’t a liberal but a progressive, like there was a difference) from my life and don’t miss a one of them. I can spot a liberal a mile off now and avoid them like the plague. Life is so much calmer without having to deal with people who are professional idiots.
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Whenever you are in a debate about gay marriage and they ask something like, “How will gay marriage affect you?” Produce articles like this or like the trolley operator in Boston. This is not tolerance. If I went to a bakery and the bakery didn’t want to do a cake for a Catholic/Christian wedding, I’d move on. I believe it’s wrong to refuse to serve someone who comes into your establishment, but when it comes to weddings, baking a cake for a wedding or taking pictures at a wedding makes you a part of that ceremony. If it violates your beliefs, you shouldn’t have to be a part of that.
I didn’t know about the trolley operator in Boston. We had one here in Annapolis, Maryland close down his wedding business. Got a link? It would be good for all of us to make a list.
there is no such thing as gay marriage. Marriage is about a contract of child conception. Their stuff is pimp and whore business contract. If gay men want to annihilate their female counterpart prostitutes competing them, so be it. Dont bother chritians into enlisting them in the army for this.
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