Posted on 10/06/2013 3:24:19 PM PDT by jimbo123
The sun is rising in India for America’s outsourced jobs.
But it’s a bad sign for New York’s dwindling middle-class workforce, say labor analysts.
New York’s labor markets are in convulsions as American employers ship more well-paid jobs to lower-cost countries like Mexico, the Philippines, China and India — where IBM, culling 747 jobs from the Empire State, has achieved landmark status. It now employs more workers in India than in the US, according to a leaked IBM document reviewed by The Post. The average IBM pay in India is $17,000, compared with $100,000 for a senior IT specialist in the US.
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If you’ve ever had to clean up after the $17K guys IBM puts on contracts, it becomes pretty clear that you get what you pay for. Despite the reputations of Asians, the entry-level folks are not very good coders.
“Yep, the US sees companies as social programs.”
So does India. The first Indian IT companies were HEAVILY subsidized by the Indian Govt. Even today India maintains a huge group of lobbyists in DC to encourage (aka bribe) Congress to keep the laws favorable for offshoring.
I sure know this. My husband USED to work for IBM.
You mean you shouldn’t hire the high-school grad who took the two-week Java course at the cram school above the dosa joint? Who knew?
Seriously, the consulting companies will slip you plenty of duds if you let them. They’re all like that. You name the price, they’ll find someone who will accept it. Never believe what is on the resume, verify references, and watch out for identity fraud.
The problem seems to not be for America, but for New York
How is that a bad thing?
New York after Massachusetts is a great American problem
ROFL
So clueless, their stock prices have been maintaining a long-term upward trajectory for years now?
BINGO! Of course knowing this( which we did) didn't exactly help during the nearly 3 years it took my husband to get another IT job.
I was an IBM Systems Service Rep for 11 years.....What IBM did was get out of the service end of the business and just got rid of everyone. All service went to 3rd party vendors....I now work for one of those 3rd party vendors who now has not only a bunch of the old IBM contracts, but a lot of the old HP contracts...
...and they pay a nice dividend.
You're talking to a 61-year-old banker whose employer of nearly 20 years was closed and liquidated by the FDIC 3 months after it posted a $70 million annual profit.
The feds didn't like the fact that it had grown from footings of $20 million to $1.4 billion and from 30 employees to nearly 300.
All of us were out looking for jobs. I still have not found one after 3 years.
IBM has an enterprise service division that runs service desks. It makes sense that they bid on desks maintained in India since many companies have support centers there.
I bet if so many companies hadn’t offshored you might have found a job by now.
But it sure helps those stock prices never mind that money doesn’t come back to the US, nor does the technology or knowledge.
People don’t understand that IBM has drastically reduced its presence as a seller of hardware (and thus manufacturing) and has largely become a services company. It’s hard to service companies in Asia or South America from NY.
Yikes. I’m so sorry to hear that.
But it is also hard to service companies in Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia from India. My husband is now working for another company, but servicing many of the companies he had been servicing when he worked for IBM.
>That’s what you get when governments get into social engineering.<
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The word ‘social engineering’ sounds so innocuous and innocent but in reality is nothing but the taking away of personal freedom.
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