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If this gets passed, I think most people who currently have jobs will quit them.
1 posted on 10/05/2013 8:31:14 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle
Can I move there?

Funded ski bumming would be great!

2 posted on 10/05/2013 8:32:10 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: grundle
Idiots

They should have held out for $25,000 a month.

3 posted on 10/05/2013 8:35:56 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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if you pay them, they will come...
4 posted on 10/05/2013 8:39:10 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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Funding for the proposed measure would come out of the Swiss social insurance system,

I propose to fund it with a $2,800 per month flat tax.

6 posted on 10/05/2013 8:42:39 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: grundle

Note that Switzerland is also very strict as to gets to live in the country.


7 posted on 10/05/2013 8:45:13 PM PDT by dfwgator
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Why not $280,000,000 per month?


8 posted on 10/05/2013 8:48:08 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: grundle

Who knows what America would be like today if JFK had not been elected, leading to Vietnam and the 1965 immigration act and unionizing federal employees and permanently emptying the mental hospitals to create the homeless.


9 posted on 10/05/2013 8:49:28 PM PDT by ansel12 ( 'I'm on That New Obama Diet... Every Day I Let Vladimir Putin Eat My Lunch' .)
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To: grundle

Ain’t being equal fun? sarc/


10 posted on 10/05/2013 9:04:57 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: grundle

So just how many Swiss are below the poverty line? Isn’t the crime rate in Switzerland practically non existent? And how many Amish are within their borders?


12 posted on 10/05/2013 9:08:54 PM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: grundle

look for prices on basic goods and services to rise at least $2800 a month.


13 posted on 10/05/2013 9:12:29 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Switzerland can afford it. Switzerland can afford a lot. Everybody in the world wants to give Switzerland some of his money.


16 posted on 10/05/2013 9:20:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: grundle; a fool in paradise
Those Swiss maids deserve at least that much!


17 posted on 10/05/2013 9:23:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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I would take 18 Hundred a month and all the cheese I could eat!


18 posted on 10/05/2013 9:24:16 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: grundle; a fool in paradise
And they have nice ocean views there and beaches.!


19 posted on 10/05/2013 9:24:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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In he 1950’s when I first visited there our 25 cent piece (quarter) and their Frank, both silver coins of the same size, were worth the same. Today 2500 SF worth $2800 ?
Should have held on to those SFs.....


20 posted on 10/05/2013 10:10:46 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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By by Switzerland.


22 posted on 10/05/2013 10:30:26 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: grundle
If this gets passed, I think most people who currently have jobs will quit them.

Certainly most will. It would be stupid not to. I wonder how their immigration laws are?

24 posted on 10/05/2013 11:08:39 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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A little perspective from someone who lives and works in Switzerland:

The average wage in Switzerland is ~6K CHF. As a matter of fact, my daughter who just became an RN earns 6K starting.

So, no one is going to quit their job to get a free 2,5k!

I don’t know where the author gets the idea that the Social Insurances pay for “universal health care” - they don’t! That is paid for individually, but there is a universal requirement. My plan (Family of four, high deductables / franchises) runs at well over 800/month).

From your monthly check -
5% is withheld for “Social Security”
1% for Unemployment and
1% for non work related accidents

another 7% is normally withheld for your pension (varies)

taxes are NOT withheld, but you are “encouraged” to pay into an account monthly to cover the taxes due ~10%

All told, you lose at least 30% (including Health Insurance).

Prices (in Francs):
Gas = 6.75/gallon
Childrens Levis = 130 (non brand can be cheap ~50)
Beef Cubes for stew 9.30/lb (at a discount grocery)

These types of initiatives are raised almost every year by the “young socialists” who only need to get 100k people to sign a petition to get it on the ballot. Most never make it into law. Currently they are pushing a 1:12 plan which would limit the pay of the highest paid person in the company to 12x what the least paid person receives. It appears doomed. Apparently enough people have realized that the CEO’s would simply restructure the companies and / or outsource the “cheap” jobs ....


25 posted on 10/06/2013 1:08:25 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (Here's my strategy on the War against Terrorism: We win, they lose. - with apologies to R.R.)
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How is this any differnt here, it’s just under multiple programs we have welfare, food stamps, housing, obamacare, social security and disability


29 posted on 10/06/2013 5:25:23 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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In the short run, this may help some in poverty, but in the long run it will destroy the Swiss virtues of hard work & personal responsibility.

As a college student, I spent a summer working in a bakery in Switzerland. At lunch one day, an old worker & I talked. He said to me, “the difference between the Swiss & the Americans is that the Swiss live to work, while the Americans work to live”.

Right or wrong, the Swiss are coming around to our way of thinking. IMO, it’s a big mistake.


30 posted on 10/06/2013 5:50:32 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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