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Must-see Common Core math problems of the day [pics]
Twitchy ^ | 10/4/13

Posted on 10/04/2013 9:46:54 AM PDT by Impala64ssa

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To: Steve_Seattle
Figured it out. The 26 is 4 short of 30. Add the 4, to make 30. Subtract the 4 just added to 26 (to compensate) and 17 becomes 13. So now you can add 30 + 13 to get 43.

By this method, 34 + 29 = 40 + 23 (add 6 to 34, subtract it from 29) + 63.

The method doesn't work for say 32 + 14, but you don't need it because there's no regrouping.

This "method" looks to be a pretty good coping strategy from someone who had a horrible math background, but somehow (we know how) became a teacher. JMHO

61 posted on 10/04/2013 10:36:57 AM PDT by grania
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Agree, add up the columns (displaying the numbers horizontally makes for easy typing by not “cyphering”) from smallest figure (rightmost) and carrying the 1’s (10’s etc.) is still the tried and true method.

I also do darkroom photography and mix chemicals. They are recommended to be at certain temperatures (and the equalize the temperatures between the chemistry so that there isn’t a wide difference than may “shock” the film transparency or emulsion on paper).

Warmer or cooler developer temperatures can also affect the time for development to occur (leading to over/under developed film).

After adhering to the “recommendations” for a period of time, you can stray from the norms with the UNDERSTANDING of what the outcome will be. But it shouldn’t be the starting point.

Measure twice. Cut once. Always good practice.


62 posted on 10/04/2013 10:45:08 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Leaning Right

I don’t think Newton and Einstein needed a piece of paper for that. Really if you understand how to chunk up numbers it’s easy, you’ve got one that’s 6 above 150 and one that’s 1 below 75, which makes it 225 + 5 = 230. That’s the point of this style of math, to be able to do that in your head. The whole thing is a severe abuse of the commutative property of math.


63 posted on 10/04/2013 10:45:57 AM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: BitWielder1
I think this is designed to confuse kids to the point that no one can excel.

I agree. My brother had a daughter having a difficult time with basic math. He taught her the way he learned, with all the traditional simple tables and a series of simple problems to understand the concepts. She finally got it, but it took parental involvement and a traditional approach. Whatever "Common Core" is, it doesn't teach kids math, IMHO.

64 posted on 10/04/2013 10:48:07 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: prof.h.mandingo
I believe that they are trying to do base tens then combine one base 10 with one “trickier” number. It makes little sense until you work with more & large numbers, operations, etc
65 posted on 10/04/2013 10:49:06 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Impala64ssa

Uh ... I have my old textbooks and sometimes carry them without a license?

Uh ... I apply for a grant, and then use the money to build a secure vault in which to hide all the good, old textbooks from the liberal nitwits?

Uh ... Do we need a 22nd Amendment to affirm our Right to Keep and Bear Books, or will the liberals insist that only the the[ir] government should have books, because they’re “trained better, to use them?”


66 posted on 10/04/2013 10:49:25 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: grania
This "method" looks to be a pretty good coping strategy from someone who had a horrible math background, but somehow (we know how) became a teacher. JMHO

You are on to something! If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bulls**t.

67 posted on 10/04/2013 10:49:28 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Impala64ssa
This crap has been introduced in most of the Catholic Schools in the Mid-Atlantic Dioceses. I find it increasingly difficult to help my gran-daughter with her homework.
68 posted on 10/04/2013 10:50:02 AM PDT by deweyfrank
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To: Impala64ssa
I think the answer to the first one is A, since the premise is to find the the set where the result is the same as 15-7. Answer A is the only set where the results of each equation, if you continue with the subtraction, equals 8, (9-1).

Seems like a convoluted approach though...???

69 posted on 10/04/2013 10:50:26 AM PDT by Mopp4
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To: Impala64ssa; First_Salute

In my defense, if there *is* already a 22nd Amendment, well, I lost interest after reading the 17th.


70 posted on 10/04/2013 10:50:45 AM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

It’s a great way to do it. Let’s you do a lot more math in your head. It’s all about understanding that there are hard numbers to work with and there are easy numbers to work with but that you can make ALL numbers easy to work with if you understand that not stone concepts but clay concepts that can be manipulated that in fact the whole POINT of math is manipulating the clay. 3rd grade might be a little early for it, but maybe not, once you get skill at dissecting numbers big weird hairy numbers get a lot less intimidating.


71 posted on 10/04/2013 10:52:37 AM PDT by discostu (This is Jack Burton in the Pork Chop Express, and I'm talkin' to whoever's listenin' out there.)
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To: a fool in paradise
These are not large numbers.

Of course, the kids gotta start somewhere; I still don't think that it is a good idea to teach that process early on.

"ballpark numbers" - like approximating at infinity in diffy Q

72 posted on 10/04/2013 10:53:59 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: InterceptPoint
My head hurts after that.
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It should. Here is the correct mental calculation for 26 + 17:

7 + 6 = 13
20 + 10 + 13 = 43

Glad you posted that. That's how I do it, too.

73 posted on 10/04/2013 10:55:30 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: NativeSon

The numbers don’t even have to be that large to see if they grasp the concept.

3x7=?

a) 1
b) 10
c) 21
d) 98


74 posted on 10/04/2013 10:56:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: First_Salute
In my defense, if there *is* already a 22nd Amendment, well, I lost interest after reading the 17th.

You got further than me. I threw the towel in on the whole mess at the 16th. :-(

75 posted on 10/04/2013 11:00:00 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: a fool in paradise
After adhering to the “recommendations” for a period of time, you can stray from the norms with the UNDERSTANDING of what the outcome will be. But it shouldn’t be the starting point.

Yep. In training I always taught the "long way" first and then taught the short cuts and when you could use them.

There was some grumbling about how I was "wasting time" by not teaching the short cuts first so I would always have something that if you used the short cuts you would get the wrong results.

That usually stopped the grumbling.

76 posted on 10/04/2013 11:02:03 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Revenge is a dish best served with pinto beans and muffins)
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To: InterceptPoint

I was thinking 7+6=13, carry 1; 1+2+1=4; 43

Or 26 + 14 = 40, + 3 = 43

Or 26 + 10 = 36, + 7 = 43

I like the first one best.


77 posted on 10/04/2013 11:04:04 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It’s much easier to “see where the cart went off the tracks” if students show their work using the “long” (or explicit) method.

Using fuzzy logic to feel out numbers (without writing down what you did) is asking for problems (will the student even be able to recall how (s)he arrived at that conclusion?)

If there is no indication “where you went wrong”, the red pen does nothing to point the way to ARRIVING at the right answer.


78 posted on 10/04/2013 11:04:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Impala64ssa

LOL!

Gov’mint maff sho iz funs


79 posted on 10/04/2013 11:06:29 AM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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To: NittanyLion

“Seems unnecessarily complicated.”

Ditto


80 posted on 10/04/2013 11:08:05 AM PDT by Farnsworth ("The people have always some champion whom they set over them and nurse into greatness...This and no)
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