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1 posted on 09/28/2013 9:59:30 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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ping


2 posted on 09/28/2013 10:02:06 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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The Communists in Russia consolidated their power by creating a health care system where not had previously existed. Something to think about.


3 posted on 09/28/2013 10:06:03 AM PDT by jmacusa
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And the RINO Establishment knows it.

It will be a disaster. Parts will collapse on themselves. This will only make the “progressives” in both parties fight harder for their government medical scheme. You see, it’s not about medicine or healthcare. It’s about control.


5 posted on 09/28/2013 10:10:13 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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I agree 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is just another trick the Dems are perpetrating on those who are opposing it, getting people to back off trying to stop it, until it’s too late and it’s past the point of no return, which is rapidly approaching.

The only option is to delay it, then get a Republican Congress and president, otherwise we are all done, literally and figuratively.


6 posted on 09/28/2013 10:10:33 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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0bamacare collapsing isn’t the worry. that’d be a blessing

the concern is 0bamacare surviving... for a little while

US healthcare costs over $3 trillion annually. they expect to bring in $500 billion to pay for it (nothing like democrat ‘finances’). considering our debt is increasing by $1.5 trillion/yr on annula tax revenues of $2 trillion... this means we’re spending $3.5 trillion now. tack on $3 trillion in spending... and $500 billion in revenues.. and you have $6.5 trillion spending with only $2.5 trillion in revenues. so... $4 trillion to the debt EVERY YEAR

0bamacare ‘surviving’ means the country doesn’t


9 posted on 09/28/2013 10:16:51 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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And Bartley cautioned: "When medical insurance coverage is mandated, experience shows, there is enormous pressure for it to cover more and more services

That's true, as far as it goes, but it does not really explain the big picture.

In 1965, the government guaranteed that the taxpayers would pay all reasonable and necessary (possibly useful) medical bills, without limit, for persons over 65.

At the time, persons over 65 did not consume a lot of medical services. One of the reasons was that the market had not yet created:

Artificial joints, fiberoptic endoscopes, CT scanning, MRI, renal dialysis, implantable defibrillators, mobile coronary care units, cloned human proteins to dissolve clots, microsurgery, proton beam radiation and the gamma knife, chemotherapy for common cancers, implantable lenses and safe cataract removal, and so on and so on.

Not a single one of these things would have been developed as a commercial product without the government promise that the taxpayers would pay all bills without limit.

Tax collections for this purpose have been insufficient since at least 1986. Both Republicans and Democrats have since then been printing and borrowing money as fast as possible to cover the payments, and now, even that has become insufficient.

10 posted on 09/28/2013 10:17:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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Expecting ObamaCare's Collapse Is Living In Wonderland,

There won't be a collapse causing patients and doctors to march from their hospitals to the Capitol.

Instead there will be a slow, grinding down to a lower level of care. Older patients will be told "I'm sorry, but there's nothing more we can do for you," except that "can" now means there is no medical treatment will mean "no medical treatment is allowed by the government for you". I expect that any doctor stating that explicitly will soon run into an array of problems, so most will just keep to the simple "nothing can be done". More patients will die of cancer in their old age, more will die of heart disease and the life expectancy will drop by a year or two.

To counter that, the department of medical propaganda will produce many statistics showing how many more kids are vaccinated or treated for asthma in the doctor's primary care nurse practitioner's office and hope that you don't notice that that your parents died untreated of something that your grandparents were treated for and lived another five happy years with the family.

You'll tell your kids stories of the days when you could get an MRI appointment the next day rather than in three months, when you could see a doctor rather than a nurse, and when if you were unhappy with your provider you were allowed to go to another one.

The British National Health Service hasn't collapsed. It just isn't very good. And unlike Canada, there are no escape valves to the south... at least until Obamacare drives out so much of our quality that a Tijuana doctor looks like a good alternative.

11 posted on 09/28/2013 10:21:20 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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Yes this will collapse for more reasons then I have time. Number one is no way their going to get the young to go along with this. Millions of kids have student loans in default. All they have to is go to the Department of Education website ....do their financials ...get a payment they can afford...and their set. Thing is this established website is so convoluted only three out of ten make it through....what do you think the failure rate on these exchanges will be...Ha


14 posted on 09/28/2013 10:29:20 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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..... YUP ...... Social Security, Medicare, Food Stamps, and all manner of entitlements that became insolvent failures over the years definitely insured the demise of those programs and assured that no Democrat ever got elected again ..... NOT!!!!

...... In fact .... all of the entitlements still exist to this day. And further .... blood curdling accusations, screams and shrieks pierce through the political air every time a conservative even thinks of defunding even a portion of any of the aforementioned entitlements.

.... Unfortunately..... Once an entitlement is born into this world it quickly becomes a political hot potato ward of the state to be kept on life support for all eternity. The only way to effectively stop an entitlement is to make sure it is never born in the first place. So yes ..... Abort the monstrosity before it is born or the undead beast will consume this entire nation.

18 posted on 09/28/2013 10:38:22 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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A peek into the monster that is 0’care.

Damaged Care, story of the HMO’s.

http://www.amazon.com/Damaged-Care-Laura-Dern/dp/B00006RCNB/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1380389966&sr=1-1&keywords=damaged+care

Available on Netflix too.


23 posted on 09/28/2013 10:47:08 AM PDT by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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Socialized healthcare is not about control. Politicians don’t want to control and be responsible for anything. It is about power, political power and nothing else. “Republicans are trying to take away grandma’s aspirin,” will be the battle cry and campaign slogan for the next 100 years, which will guarantee election and re-election. It’s worked before, it is working now (on things other than aspirin), and will work in the future. Guaranteed.


31 posted on 09/28/2013 11:02:00 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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The article misses the point. Obastardcare is *designed* to collapse, and take the private insurance industry with it. People will be screaming for Single Payer then.

SP is the planned Hell on Earth, all that is going on now is just the train ride there.


37 posted on 09/28/2013 11:29:20 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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THAT is EXACTLY what I have been saying for a month....THANK YOU!!!! You could also change it to "I see you don't Vote for Democrats or give them MONEY"....it's going to be independents also that won't get the care that Democrats will get.

Our country is where it's at and falling even further because of 55 MILLION DEAD BABIES....GAY EVRYTHING,EVERYWHERE, and we have kicked GOD out of our country!!

NOTHING WILL EVER BE GOOD IN THIS COUNTRY AGAIN TIL WE CHANGE OUR HEARTS.

45 posted on 09/28/2013 1:36:47 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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It’s designed to collapse - so we can go to a single-payer system...and redistribute still more wealth......


46 posted on 09/28/2013 4:16:54 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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D*mn this jerk for telling me I could keep my beloved doctor of DECADES! He lied!!!


51 posted on 09/28/2013 10:34:19 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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