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Is the United States Splitting Apart?
Townhall ^ | 09/25/2013 | Ben Shapiro

Posted on 09/25/2013 10:24:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In September, the Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors voted to secede from the State of California. "Many proposed laws are unconstitutional and deny us our God-given rights," said one attendee at the council meeting. "We need our own state so we can make laws that fit our way of life." A few weeks later, the Modoc County Board of Supervisors voted to join Siskiyou in the new state of Jefferson, voting 4-0 to leave California.

The board votes didn't mean much legally -- the federal government and state government of California would have to recognize the new proposed state of Jefferson. But symbolically, the vote recognizes the growing incompatibility of leftist governance and conservative populations, and vice versa. California is the United States writ small: a state increasingly dominated by Democrats at the top levels, but remaining largely red locally; a state with a massive gap between the major metropolitan areas, which trend deeply blue, and the more rural conservative areas. Increasingly, the two populations simply can't work together.

And thus conservatives are leaving. More and more business have taken off for Texas, New Mexico, Nevada. Three companies a week left California for Texas from 1990 to 2010 (about one company left Texas for California each week during that same period). California's population growth has been driven largely by illegal immigration. The breadbasket of California in the San Joaquin Valley has been devastated by a combination of federal and state environmental regulations.

Conservatives in California still have someplace to go. But what happens when states begin falling, one after another, for the Democratic playbook? As California drives itself deeper into the mire, even leftists are unsatisfied with its style of living -- and they're leaving. Between 1995 and 2000, California lost nearly 67,000 residents to Texas, and lost 94,000 to Arizona; California also lost 55,000 to Colorado. Those emigrants probably voted heavily Democrat in California. Now they've moved to new states, where they will undoubtedly copycat the same destructive practices that drove them from their original homes.

After all, that's what happened to California. California used to be a reliably middle-of-the-road state -- it was home to both Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan. But from 1955 to 1960, California absorbed large liberal populations from states like New York (nearly 99,000) and Illinois (100,000). That trend continued and was exacerbated by immigration across the southern border. The Republican Party didn't help itself any with Proposition 187 under the governorship of Pete Wilson, which targeted public services for illegal immigrants. Now California is perhaps the bluest state in the nation, even though on the local level, it remains largely red.

So what happens when people run out of places to run? What happens when all of America's major metro areas go blue and those populations control states with conservative rural populations? What happens when those conservatives get sick of paying for the excesses of leftist governance?

Exactly what's happening in California? And while California's secessionists may seem like a frivolity now, they may be an early warning of what's to come if Americans cannot reunite around common political principles.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: calexit; california; cwii; newcalifornia; secession; stateofjefferson; timdraper; unitedstates
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To: doorgunner69

Lot’s of liberals moving into Texas now, I got into it with one just the other day at my little beer joint as he was talking bad about Cruz and other conservatives. I told him to go back to Yankee land. Perry is a fool going around the country trying to talk (Yankee) companies to into moving to Texas. All he is doing is recruiting liberals!


61 posted on 09/25/2013 11:23:30 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: SeekAndFind
While I agree that America may be splintering over the political divide, it is a very bad sign that the people who largely supported liberal government excesses are abandoning the liberal "paradise" they helped to create!

The last thing that states like Texas, Arizona and Nevada need is for their leftist rabble to take their socialistic philosophies to these other states and attempt to re-create the poisonous environment they are abandoning.

Texas, in particular, has benefitted greatly from its (relatively) conservative governor, Rick Perry, and doesn't need the influence the leftists will bring. As it is, the left has declared Texas a battleground state for 2014 and intends to take back as many seats as they can. Time will tell who wins, but I think much of it will depend on how ZeroCare is handled. Right now, it doesn't look too promising for the left.
62 posted on 09/25/2013 11:26:38 AM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: crusty old prospector

If you look at the map checking out voting statistics, it’s generally the large metropolitan areas where the Leftist’s consolidate power.

The more of our populace that moves to and remains in rural areas, the better of our nation would be.

People in rural settings tend to be more self-reliant, and therefore Conservative.

If you’ve come to a place where you think it’s better to move to an urban setting, that’s okay with me.


63 posted on 09/25/2013 11:27:14 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (This post coming to you today from behind the Camelskin Curtain. Not the Iron or Bamboo Curtain...)
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Colorado is also splitting up. There was a couple of counties up north that are trying to leave the state.


64 posted on 09/25/2013 11:36:06 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: jpsb

Well done.


65 posted on 09/25/2013 11:38:46 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: jpsb

Lot’s of liberals moving into Texas now, I got into it with one just the other day at my little beer joint as he was talking bad about Cruz and other conservatives. I told him to go back to Yankee land. Perry is a fool going around the country trying to talk (Yankee) companies to into moving to Texas. All he is doing is recruiting liberals!


Yep. I’ve seen three cars with coexist stickers on them. Sickens me.

I can spot a lib in the grocery the second I lay eyes on him or her.

Wish they’d go away. Creeps. Here to take our money all while they back stab us and look down their noses at our traditions.

I tick ‘em off when I can, leave ‘em be when I can’t.


66 posted on 09/25/2013 11:51:31 AM PDT by KittenClaws ( You may have to fight a battle more than once in order to win it." - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liberals are like locusts. They swarm in and destroy their new habitat and then need to swarm to a new fertile feeding ground and promptly destroy that one.

They fail to understand that the crap hole they left was that way because of their policies, so they bring their policies to their wonderful new home, only to turn it into a crap hole very quickly.


67 posted on 09/25/2013 11:57:02 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
it’s almost like the feds have been planning for a rebellion a lot longer than anyone else may have.

If they were in any way students of history, they'd be fools not to.


It's time to write our loved ones in the Armed Forces and ask them to please not obey orders to shoot civilians, and to remember the names of officers who issue such orders.
68 posted on 09/25/2013 11:57:32 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

Here in Broward county FL, I’m surrounded by a vast majority of democRATS.

But it sure is a nice place to live. What to do.


69 posted on 09/25/2013 12:09:03 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Inbred, pedophile-worshipping, misogynists (mozlums) offend me.)
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To: Rio

I wonder if we could make it happen as a compromise for making Porto Rico a state. A Missouri compromise, to be sure, but at least a compromise.


70 posted on 09/25/2013 12:25:50 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Max in Utah
I assume that the northern border of the proposed state of Jefferson stops at the southern border of Lane County?

Yes. We've no use for Eugene.
County Map:


71 posted on 09/25/2013 12:33:10 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: Riley

The right-of-way is still there, yes? I imagine getting it back into shape would be quite a job.


72 posted on 09/25/2013 12:38:08 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Yes. And those who get to survive it will see the split up as the most tragic thing to occur in this century.

I’m not going to deny reality: the US is heading for a national divorce. All I can do in the mean time is voice my strident opposition to it and hope that some good sense prevails. Unfortunately, I don’t see that we’ll be that lucky.

So I’m anti-secession. Not because I don’t want Texans or Louisianans or Arizonans to be freer. I oppose secession because I’m not willing to pay the butcher’s bill.


73 posted on 09/25/2013 12:49:44 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Rio

A lot of the right-of-way has slid into the Eel River Canyon. The ground is really unstable.
It’s a shame, because I’d love to see the old Northwestern Pacific running again.


74 posted on 09/25/2013 12:55:57 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: M Kehoe
"I pray we solve our differences amicably, because if we don't, CWII will make CWI look like a walk in the park on a warm spring day."

The prospect of lots of dead Americans always seems to be ignored when talk of Glorious Secession is in the air.


75 posted on 09/25/2013 1:10:26 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Power disintegrates when people withdraw their obedience and support)
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To: Riley

I heard that it was quite a scenic route.


76 posted on 09/25/2013 1:30:44 PM PDT by Rio (Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

I certainly hope so. Bring back the Republic of Texas!


77 posted on 09/25/2013 1:34:35 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill

Republic of Texas will have to split off further still fr Austin, Dallas, SA etc. Good article here today by Ben Shapiro that deals with the leftists lording over and feeding off their conservative hosts in rural America. Alas, it’s quietly happening in Texas and will only get worse. Up to the tipping point that surely is coming. We still greatly outnumber them.


78 posted on 09/25/2013 1:39:31 PM PDT by Dysart (If you like your country, you can keep it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If America splits apart, I won’t worry, as it splits at the Texas border.


79 posted on 09/25/2013 1:44:32 PM PDT by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: Rio

It was. The Eureka Southern ran excursions up that way in the late Nineties. I have a VHS recording of one such trip.


80 posted on 09/25/2013 1:45:11 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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