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American gun use is out of control. Shouldn't the world intervene?
The Guardian (UK) ^ | Sept 21, 2013 | Henry Porter

Posted on 09/23/2013 6:42:07 PM PDT by Innovative

The death toll from firearms in the US suggests that the country is gripped by civil war

The annual toll from firearms in the US is running at 32,000 deaths and climbing, even though the general crime rate is on a downward path (it is 40% lower than in 1980). If this perennial slaughter doesn't qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.

But no nation sees itself as outsiders do. Half the country is sane and rational while the other half simply doesn't grasp the inconsistencies and historic lunacy of its position, which springs from the second amendment right to keep and bear arms, and is derived from English common law and our 1689 Bill of Rights. We dispensed with these rights long ago, but American gun owners cleave to them with the tenacity that previous generations fought to continue slavery.

There is absolutely nothing he (Obama) can do, which underscores the fact that America is in a jam and that international pressure may be one way of reducing the slaughter over the next generation. This has reached the point where it has ceased to be a domestic issue. The world cannot stand idly by.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; foreignmeddling; gormless; guardian; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment; unitednations
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To: Innovative

Ridiculous and hypocritical.
Nairobi, let alone wherever islam lurks.
They are the out of control guns!


61 posted on 09/23/2013 7:10:41 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Innovative

>> Please try to keep your responses clean, don’t post what you first want to say ...

Now you tell us...

Anyway, this would be a great way to unify America’s sights against a common adversary.


62 posted on 09/23/2013 7:11:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Innovative
All the mass shootings take place in gun-free zones.

Outlaw gun-free zones.

Problem solved.

63 posted on 09/23/2013 7:11:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: himno hero

The guy’s being a smart ass — who’s policing the police...


64 posted on 09/23/2013 7:12:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Innovative

He is welcome to try to take them.


65 posted on 09/23/2013 7:12:21 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: tacticalogic

We got ourselves a slow learner Limey.

We kicked their butts out once and thought that would be enough but no, they had to come back and we had kick their butts again.

Now this slow learner wants to try a third time.

Someone needs to inform this slow learner the third time we don’t play nice.


66 posted on 09/23/2013 7:12:33 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: barmag25
I found the 32,000.

It said we had 10 gun related deaths per 100,000 people. and 6 of those deaths are suicide. US gun deaths

Then I found this link that shows the total suicide rate. Suicide rate by country Which shows that the UK has almost as many suicides as we do. Apparently they find other ways to kill themselves.

67 posted on 09/23/2013 7:13:09 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: cripplecreek

F the UN et al...and especially this simpleton POS from the Guardian/Observer. These A-holes from England don’t get it...the Revolutionary War that pounded their salt was fought because they attempted to take our guns. We won, they lost. Get over it your British A-holes.

As for the death by gun in this country, recognize that the Obama/Holder people are out of control, mostly killing themselves. Sometimes they are killing whites in hate-crime scenerios, but never charged. The large portion of deaths by gun in this country are suicides. And those would do it to them selves in many other ways, were a gun not available. And the majority of the Obama/Holder people are using guns where we have the most severe, restrictive gun laws (Chicago, DC etc)

So again I say, FU you British A-holes. And you too, Obama/Holder.


68 posted on 09/23/2013 7:14:20 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Innovative
If this perennial slaughter doesn't qualify for intercession by the UN and all relevant NGOs, it is hard to know what does.

Look at the rates, not the numbers. Anyone can play with statistics.

Speaking of slaughters though, just try to intervene in America. Molon Labe. There is no way any outside entity could anticipate what they would find themselves in. No way. It would make "Red Dawn" look like a Disney movie. It would make Viet Nam, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. look like rowdy soccer crowds. Within 6 months, a year at most you wouldn't be able to find any UN personnel willing to "deploy" to America.

69 posted on 09/23/2013 7:17:09 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

I think they would find that we have a lot more British friends than enemies.


70 posted on 09/23/2013 7:17:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Innovative

Where is the ULTRA MEGA BARF ALERT?

BTW, this is about my 4th attempt at a ‘clean’ response.


71 posted on 09/23/2013 7:19:18 PM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: cripplecreek
done in #1

saved me the trouble :-)
72 posted on 09/23/2013 7:19:24 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Innovative

Yes, please intervene. You’ll only do it once.


73 posted on 09/23/2013 7:20:17 PM PDT by TheZMan (Buy more ammo.)
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To: Innovative

anytime, anyplace.

Wolverines!


74 posted on 09/23/2013 7:20:22 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, border)
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To: MissMagnolia

“BTW, this is about my 4th attempt at a ‘clean’ response.”

LOL!

It took me a while too — that’s why I added that caution. :)


75 posted on 09/23/2013 7:21:09 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

Come and take them. I’ll quite enjoy blue helmeted targets wandering around my neighborhood, and I’m sure a lot of my neighbors would as well.


76 posted on 09/23/2013 7:21:29 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: marktwain

“The author is not interested in facts.”

Or in public safety. Leftards want guns banned because they want to do things they can’t do while the people are armed—things that they shouldn’t do.

It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with tyranny.


77 posted on 09/23/2013 7:22:17 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: wafflehouse

I concur. Molon labe.
And as my NRA bumper sticker states, “STAND AND FIGHT”
And I like the Texas version: “Come and take it.”


78 posted on 09/23/2013 7:23:21 PM PDT by Tudorfly
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To: Innovative

“Intervene” how? With guns???


79 posted on 09/23/2013 7:24:49 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Innovative
The last time the Brits got all buttinski about taking our guns away didn't go real well for them, did it.
80 posted on 09/23/2013 7:24:59 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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