Posted on 09/22/2013 11:10:57 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Sen. Rand Paul conceded Saturday that congressional Republicans have little chance of stopping Obamacare.
We probably cant defeat or get rid of Obamacare, the Kentucky senator told reporters at a gathering of Michigan Republicans, according to the Associated Press.
Paul acknowledged that time is running out for Congress to pass a government funding bill, however he said House Republicans efforts to defund Obamacare in its government funding bill could lead to a compromise.
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Reid has said any bill defunding Obamacare would be dead on arrival, and Sen. John McCain said Thursday that it was not rational to think the Senate would pass anything defunding the program.
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B/S. Read James Madison’s words and instructions to the House to block runaway government in Federalist no 58 (excerpted and linked above in comment no 1). The House has the power to deny funds through the appropriations clause. Read it and weep.
I dunno.
Of every single Republican in the House or the Senate, I have seen one (and only one) Republican stand up strong and resolute.
Cruz.
Palin isn’t in the House or the Senate, but she seems to be the only other person out there.
I think you may be under-estimating Cruz.
I didn’t attack Rand Paul I demonstrated where he was wrong. Perhaps he’ll be able to see the light. Read Federalist No. 58. James Madison was no piker.
Then what good are you, Randy?
..aiding and abetting the enemy...
a ‘caver’ - not presidential material
I've been watching Rand since he came to prominence, and it seems to me that he wants it too much.
Ted wants it too, but he's been very gracious in crediting Paul whenever possible.
That's character.
how can we win @ the 2014 election boxes while elections are grossly and transparently fraudulent, and no one is even speaking about stopping the fraud?
Obama threatens to shutdown the government, but he won’t. He’s a coward. A petulant child throwing a tantrum because he cannot get his way. If Reid/Obama attempt to shutdown the government, they’ll lose big time. The People (the ones who count and there are enough of us) see through this crap. Let the whiners howl. we the people have the House’s back all the way.
A government shutdown accomplishes nothing but laying off a bunch of dead weight federal employees anyway. Bring it on.
If Obama/Reid & the GOP-e wish to see another tea party sweep in 2014/2016, I see no better way than to piss on the people.
Rebellion is brewing!
Don’t tread on me!
It wouldn't be surprising if some "experts" try to argue that the House is obligated to fund Obamacare as a consequence of it being the established "Law of the Land," Madison & the wisdom of true Constitutional scholars be damned. Don't count on the current SCOTUS to rule on this point -- the time to act is NOW anyway.
Let's see who steps up to do what they were elected to do ...
Washington probably couldn’t have defeated the Royal Empire either.
Shut the gov’t down until Nov 2014.
Rand is a little green (inexperienced) and Cruz probably comes from a conventional conservative point of view while libertarians still can shift based on which way the wind blows, it’s something like this if not exactly.
Just sayin'
You got your opinion, I got mine.
Defeatism being portrayed is not what we need right now.
I'm damned tired of political considerations taking precedent over what's right for the country, that's why we're in the shape we're in, holding on by a thread.
Paul is either with us us on stopping OBozocare or he's not.
Saying it can't be stop is not with us, plus not true.
Paul is also on record urging conservatives to accept immigration reform. No, thanks. I’ll take Ted Cruz.
“Pauls statements are devastating cryptonite at this point in the debate”
You are blowing it out of proportion. This was an off the cuff remark answering some guys question. Cruz said the same thing last week in a press release, before the house voted. Many people in the house were not happy about that.
If the filibuster succeeds, we are going into a government shutdown. Obama has no reason to negotiate. In a shutdown he can spend the money coming in, in any way that he wants. And then at some point the republicans will cave because the government can’t stay shutdown forever. Many people haven’t really thought this through.
Is she off Team Rand yet?
Difference between a statesman and a politician.
I truly believe Cruz is a statesman.
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