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Assad's connection to Iran is the biggest reason why Israel's leaders have gone from neutral to anti-Assad.
1 posted on 09/17/2013 8:50:27 AM PDT by elhombrelibre
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To: elhombrelibre
Instability is the bane of nation states.

Why someone would ask for even more of it in their backyard is incomprehensible to me.

51 posted on 09/17/2013 12:14:12 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: elhombrelibre

On a Saturday night earlier this year Syrian facilities were hit by an Israeli attack in the Damascus area.

Public opinion is against military action in this country even after Israel’s lobbyists here AIPAC came out in support of it.

The fog is now cleared and we now know that Israel is clearly against Assad because he is a tool of Iran.


63 posted on 09/17/2013 2:02:32 PM PDT by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW, PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN,CHANGE I BELIEVE IN)
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To: MestaMachine

Pinging ..


67 posted on 09/17/2013 2:09:24 PM PDT by caww
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To: elhombrelibre

Apparently, this is an example, if one is ever needed, where Israeli interests diverge from American interests, for those who are sometimes confused. It’s not in America’s interest to be on the same side as al Qaeda.


70 posted on 09/17/2013 3:08:10 PM PDT by OldNewYork (Biden '13. Impeach now.)
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To: elhombrelibre

I bet Bibi knows more about what’s going on that the left or right media in America.


71 posted on 09/17/2013 3:11:13 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Allister Crowley would feel so at home in America today. "World's most average gay")
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To: elhombrelibre

The Israelis have a military and a border with Syria. Tell ‘em to go, whenever they’re ready.
We’ll cheer ‘em on.


75 posted on 09/17/2013 3:46:07 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: elhombrelibre

I think someone is pressuring Israel to take this stance. Shame.


78 posted on 09/17/2013 6:21:35 PM PDT by BeadCounter (Really? Syria?)
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To: elhombrelibre

All this switching and counter-switching sides is making me dizzy!


83 posted on 09/17/2013 6:59:41 PM PDT by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL of you heroes!)
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To: elhombrelibre

Israel knows that desperate Assad with his chemical weapons and nuclear Iran are a bigger threat than some ragtag disorganized rebels. Once Assad falls the rebels will fight among themselves.


87 posted on 09/17/2013 7:38:42 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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They probably figure they are gonna be dealing with a Syria led by tyrants who view them as a cancerous tumor to be excised from the Middle East . But if Assad falls, they at least get a break from having to deal with one of their worse enemies while said enemy is going through prolonged inner turmoil.


88 posted on 09/17/2013 7:40:18 PM PDT by freedom462
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Even Assad's defeat by al Qaeda-aligned rebels would be preferable to Damascus's current alliance with Israel's arch-foe Iran, Ambassador Michael Oren said in an interview with the Jerusalem Post.

huh? Not sure why they would think that way but it is their ass on the line so I do respect their opinion.

94 posted on 09/17/2013 8:58:17 PM PDT by plain talk
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Just because Israel publicly calls for Assad's ouster doesn't mean that they actually want Assad replaced by the MB in Syria.

This may be public posturing on Israel's part to confuse one or several of its numerous enemies.

104 posted on 09/18/2013 6:16:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: elhombrelibre
Then by all means let Israel foot the bill and let the IDF do the fighting. The same goes for the Saudis who demand "regime change" in Syria.

Both have made statements that seem to imply that they consider regard the US as little more than their mercenaries in the Middle East.

117 posted on 09/18/2013 10:40:25 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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There's quite a bit of talk in the thread about Putin being some kind of moral beacon.

Sex for the motherland: Russian youths encouraged to procreate at camp
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-471324/Sex-motherland-Russian-youths-encouraged-procreate-camp.html

Russian Youth Group Encourages "More Sex" to Save Motherland from Dwindling Population
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | July 30, 2007 | John Jalsevac

Posted on Tue Jul 31 04:48:24 2007 by monomaniac

Russian Youth Group Encourages "More Sex" to Save Motherland from Dwindling Population

By John Jalsevac

MOSCOW, Russia, July 30, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Russian nationalist youth group is encouraging youth to have more sex in an effort to combat the nation's devastating demographic crisis, reports the Daily Mail.

In a lengthy special report the Daily Mail documents the activities of the Nashi youth movement, which is sponsoring a summer camp attended by some 10,000 Russian youth this summer. Not only are Nashi organizers encouraging the youth to have more sex, but they have designated a special area at the dormitories, the Love Oasis, for young men and women to engage in sexual intercourse. According to the Mail, condoms are unavailable in the camp.

"They [The pre-historic mammoths] became extinct because they did not have enough sex. That must not happen to Russia," said a Nashi organizer to a group of assembled campers.

The nationalistic camp involves two weeks of lectures, reported by some Western sources as being little more than anti-Western "propaganda," as well as a strenuous regimen of physical exercise. Numerous young couples have also been married at the camp, with 25 couples being married at the beginning of the first week, and ten to be married at the beginning of the second.

While many people, especially in the West, are finding in the Kremlin-initiated, and Kremlin-loyal Nashi youth group a disturbing image of similar groups started up in Nazi-era Germany, the camp's approach to sex is further evidence that the Russian government is not unaware that a demographic crisis is leading the entire Russian nation towards an early grave.


Russia's President Wants to Turn Around Population Decline

James Brooke | Moscow30 November 2010

Russia's president devoted the largest part of his annual State of Russia speech to reversing Russia's population decline.

If Russian couples have a third child, they will get a baby bonus, better health care, and free land to build a house or dacha, Russian President Dmitri Medvedev promised in his annual State of Russia speech.

Political analysts were hoping to hear about missiles or democracy. Instead they got babies.

[...]

What he did not say is that Russia compensates for its aging workforce by importing about 10 million laborers a year from Central Asia. After the United States, Russia is now the second-largest importer of workers. This influx of overwhelmingly Muslim workers creates tensions in Russia, where the population is largely Orthodox Christian.



Russian Patriotism Unleashed by Georgian War
SPIEGEL ONLINE ^ | 10/15/2008 | Fred Weir

Posted on Thu Oct 16 18:47:42 2008 by neverdem

LETTER FROM MOSCOW

The war in Georgia has provoked unprecedented levels of patriosm in Russia. The majority of the population supported their army's actions in the Caucasus. And even the fiercest critics of the Kremlin have now become proud Russians.

Members of the Kremlin-loyal youth organisation "Nashi" wave flags and hold a banner during a protest in front of the US embassy in Moscow during the Georgia war.


Hit, kicked and bruised: beatings at Russian women’s prison caught on video
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2801291/posts

Russian Patriotism Unleashed by Georgian War
SPIEGEL ONLINE ^ | 10/15/2008 | Fred Weir

Posted on Thu Oct 16 18:47:42 2008 by neverdem

LETTER FROM MOSCOW

The war in Georgia has provoked unprecedented levels of patriosm in Russia. The majority of the population supported their army's actions in the Caucasus. And even the fiercest critics of the Kremlin have now become proud Russians.

Members of the Kremlin-loyal youth organisation "Nashi" wave flags and hold a banner during a protest in front of the US embassy in Moscow during the Georgia war.


Hit, kicked and bruised: beatings at Russian women’s prison caught on video
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2801291/posts

Ruthless Russia
American Thinker ^ | June 16, 2007 | Peter B. Martin
Excerpt:
Putin has created a very sophisticated youth movement made up of over 100,000 volunteers called "Nashi", much like a clone of the Nazi youth movement. It is a well-equipped, fanatical, nationalistic private army that is hostile to foreigners and to any political group opposing the Kremlin leadership. Their aggressive behavior is not only tolerated by the authorities but also even encouraged. They help re-enforce local police; wearing black attire, they aggressively beat anyone they consider hooligans or insurrectionist.

They have been taught to believe that the United States is actively preparing a pro-western revolution in their country and that they will thwart it. They have developed high-level recruiting and training camps right across the expanse of Russia. Not only are they schooled in a variety of military issues, they also have orientation courses in such esoteric subjects as gestalt therapy, to help them to survive under extreme conditions.


122 posted on 09/18/2013 6:07:47 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Very smart move.
1. Israel backs Obama, in order to curry favor on Iran.
2. Israel is taking no actual action. However, the statement, damages Sunni support for the rebels. Thus a weakened Assad survives ensuring stability.
124 posted on 09/18/2013 11:03:26 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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