Posted on 09/14/2013 10:30:57 PM PDT by No One Special
Saint FDR and Saint Truman both need to be taken down about 50 pegs. Absolute scumbags, the both of them.
Accusations like this never bother anyone on the Left, I wouldn't let it bother me. What do people say when you run into flack?
All of this is true and has been excised from popular history.
If you don’t understand this, you don’t understand half of what happened in World War II.
I have one minor criticism of the book: It needs an editor, particularly the opening chapter, which attempts to relate the current War against Islam (let's face it, that's where we are, like it or not) to the Cold War. While it might be true, it shouldn't be in there. The book can stand on its own as a purely revisionist narrative of the Cold War, which the author properly identifies as running not from the end of the Second World War, but from before the beginning of it.
For Radosh, Horowitz, and all of the other naysayers, here's another excellent book, which bolsters most of Diana West's positions and was written by no bomb thrower, but a former American President: Freedom Betrayed Herbert Hoovers Secret History of the Second World War and Its Aftermath.
I was surprised by the existence of this book. Hoover started out his career and ended his presidency as a very liberal Republican; his predecessor, Coolidge, had nothing but disdain for Hoover's activism. As a matter of fact, a great many of the New Deal programs were actually economic reforms Hoover wanted to try, but he was sandbagged by a Democrat Congress in order to secure his electoral defeat.
But eventually Hoover became a conservative, and he wrote a fine book, well worth reading. [Just skip the Introduction, which is 100 pages of some academic's medal polishing over his editing that doesn't contribute anything to the work, unless you want to understand sources and methods. Most people won't.]
Maybe Horowitz is out there providing the outer bounds of what is acceptable in the way of anti-communism.
The conventional historical narrative, that Roosevelt gave away so much at Yalta because of his failing health, is scandalously false. It is not supported by any of the facts on the ground, nor by any statements of contemporary witnesses. In source after source we discover that from almost the very day tens of thousands of Polish POW's were repatriated from Siberia to form a Polish allied army in exile, Roosevelt intended to give their country, as well as the Baltics, to Stalin.
This is in 1942. This is not at Tehran or Yalta. Roosevelt made various remarks in 1942, 1943, and 1944 -- despite the explicit wording of the Atlantic Charter which he and Churchill signed and to which the Russians assented on numerous occasions -- that Russia would receive EVERYTHING she had been granted in the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, and as a matter of fact, a great deal more, and that people in Eastern Europe would "simply have to accept that."
Nobody wants to address these claims, and have chosen instead to focus on narrow questions about whether Harry Hopkins was a spy or not, and whether the General in charge of Lend-Lease did indeed see proscribed nuclear materials being shipped to the Russians.
But the betrayal of Eastern and Central Europe, the deadly repatriation of millions of Ukrainians and White Russians to the Gulag by American and British Armies, and the pointless concessions made to Stalin in the Far East are topics no one wants to discuss. Why? Because the historical record is clear: Roosevelt wasn't swindled on these deals. He made these deals, he understood these deals, and he fully assented to them long before Yalta.
Bookmarked!
I am paraphrasing but I recall Whitaker Chambers stating in Witness that his Soviet handler once proudly boasted the Soviets had deeper penetration into Washington, DC, than they had had during Weimar. Ms West was using "occupied" correctly and in that sense.
Hopkins may or may not have been "Agent 19" but his entire career shows he supported Soviet objectives and, as FredZarguna notes in post #10, The most serious contention in West's book, and fully supported in Herbert Hoover's Secret History of World War II, is not whether Harry Hopkins is any particular case reference in Venona; it's the degree to which Stalin got everything he wanted, and more.
This is awesome. I will get this book.
The light of truth scatters Democrats like cockroaches.
That is certainly the role that Radosh has played:
Yes, the Rosenbergs were guilty, but Joe McCarthy was bad. Yes the Spanish Civil War was a tragedy, but John Stewart Service was not a Communist agent. And so on. The first is such a throwaway that it's no longer even controversial. The Second is nonsense. The third is a given. And as to the fourth, it's very, very hard to believe that John Stewart Service was merely a simple-minded dupe in the fall of China, which is what Radosh expects us to believe.
Ann Coulter pretty thoroughly demolished Radosh in one of her columns. I guess I take some pity on Radosh. He's an academic and needs to keep his contacts... I guess ...
Thank you for that sobering post. Now I see why Diana’s book is so “perturbing”. I wonder if Roosevelt learned of the Ukrainian “famine”. I mean, what did he know and when did he know it? I guess we will probably never know the full story. Just hope some of this gets into the mainstream. It is criminal to ignore it.
I have been fascinated by WWII, partly I think because my parents went through it. It was kind of a romantic story I wasn’t a part of. Dad was Army Medical Corps but didn’t go overseas and died when I was 4. It was a period of time that I wanted to understand because it so changed America from what it was. It has changed again today into something totally different.
I am about 2/3 through Diana’s book after reading things like Witness and Blacklisted by History. Things are starting to make sense now.
I also recommend None Dare Call it Conspiracy, it explains the connection between Marxist ideologues and the “rich and powerful elites” who are the real benefactors. It helps to understand how China has become such a financial powerhouse.
We have become almost fully Soviet here in America now. We don’t have gulags partly because they didn’t exist here under a previous czar. Also the regime isn’t dragging us off to the gulags because they don’t have to. The vast majority are so fully brainwashed by media or too morally compromised to stop them.
This is dangerous knowledge. Where do we go from here?
I've reared my children and they're as good as they'll get until they really, REALLY wake up.
Go from here?
In a few hours ... I'm going to church.
My dad fought in the Warsaw Uprising or 1944, he never forgave Roosevelt and Churchill for selling out Poland to the Soviets.
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