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To: No One Special
The most serious contention in West's book, and fully supported in Herbert Hoover's Secret History of World War II, is not whether Harry Hopkins is any particular case reference in Venona; it's the degree to which Stalin got everything he wanted, and more.

The conventional historical narrative, that Roosevelt gave away so much at Yalta because of his failing health, is scandalously false. It is not supported by any of the facts on the ground, nor by any statements of contemporary witnesses. In source after source we discover that from almost the very day tens of thousands of Polish POW's were repatriated from Siberia to form a Polish allied army in exile, Roosevelt intended to give their country, as well as the Baltics, to Stalin.

This is in 1942. This is not at Tehran or Yalta. Roosevelt made various remarks in 1942, 1943, and 1944 -- despite the explicit wording of the Atlantic Charter which he and Churchill signed and to which the Russians assented on numerous occasions -- that Russia would receive EVERYTHING she had been granted in the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, and as a matter of fact, a great deal more, and that people in Eastern Europe would "simply have to accept that."

Nobody wants to address these claims, and have chosen instead to focus on narrow questions about whether Harry Hopkins was a spy or not, and whether the General in charge of Lend-Lease did indeed see proscribed nuclear materials being shipped to the Russians.

But the betrayal of Eastern and Central Europe, the deadly repatriation of millions of Ukrainians and White Russians to the Gulag by American and British Armies, and the pointless concessions made to Stalin in the Far East are topics no one wants to discuss. Why? Because the historical record is clear: Roosevelt wasn't swindled on these deals. He made these deals, he understood these deals, and he fully assented to them long before Yalta.

10 posted on 09/14/2013 11:41:14 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Or perhaps his Nobel Prize lecture for medicine.)
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Bookmarked!


11 posted on 09/14/2013 11:55:25 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: FredZarguna

Thank you for that sobering post. Now I see why Diana’s book is so “perturbing”. I wonder if Roosevelt learned of the Ukrainian “famine”. I mean, what did he know and when did he know it? I guess we will probably never know the full story. Just hope some of this gets into the mainstream. It is criminal to ignore it.


15 posted on 09/15/2013 12:17:37 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: FredZarguna

17 posted on 09/15/2013 1:04:32 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: FredZarguna; Homer_J_Simpson
This is in 1942. This is not at Tehran or Yalta. Roosevelt made various remarks in 1942, 1943, and 1944 -- despite the explicit wording of the Atlantic Charter which he and Churchill signed and to which the Russians assented on numerous occasions -- that Russia would receive EVERYTHING she had been granted in the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact, and as a matter of fact, a great deal more, and that people in Eastern Europe would "simply have to accept that."

Were these remarks reported in the press?

44 posted on 09/15/2013 7:18:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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