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It is time for the Tea Party to become a political party
The Washington Times ^ | September 4, 2013 | Judson Phillips

Posted on 09/05/2013 8:41:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It is time for the Tea Party to divorce the Republican Party and start its own political party.

Nature abhors a vacuum, and the Tea Party swept into the political vacuum left by the Republican Party in 2009. There was no voice for conservatives. The GOP had surrendered to its big government wing. And because of that, the GOP had been shellacked in 2006 and 2008.

The GOP would not stand up for conservative principles and the Tea Party was born.

In 2010, the Tea Party swept the Republicans into power in the House of Representatives.

What does the Tea Party have to show for it?

For the last two and a half years, the Tea Party has watched House Speaker John Boehner raise his freshly laundered white flag of surrender time and time again.

While the Republicans come back home to tell the voters how conservative they are, the truth is quite different.

The Republican leadership has not held the line on spending. They have capitulated repeatedly on the debt ceiling. They have surrendered on taxes. They have wanted to get along on Amnesty even though it is political suicide. They have given us meaningless, symbolic votes to repeal Obamacare, while making no real effort to do so. With barely disguised contempt for the base, they have ignored the calls to defund Obamacare.

Now they are giving the conservative base the middle finger by rushing to war in Syria.....

(Excerpt) Read more at communities.washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 3rdparty; boehner; congress; democrats; gop; naysayers; obama; obamacare; palin; pipedream; republicans; syria; taxes; teaparty; teapartyrebellion; teapublicans; thirdparty
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To: Regulator

The TEA Party does not control the Republican Party. There are a handful of people in Congress that could be said to be on board with us.


61 posted on 09/06/2013 1:07:26 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: dalereed

AIP hurt our chances?

Don’t they get a fraction of a percent of the vote?

The Libertarian Party doesn’t hurt us either because they are a bunch of freaks.


62 posted on 09/06/2013 1:09:06 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: Regulator

The GOP is RUN by Romney and Rove and McCain.

SSDD.
The same statists who support al Qaeda AND Soros.

Americans have had enough of the lying bastards.
Romney and McCain HAVE Already ruined the USA
by installing Obama (secondary to Romney sabotage).


63 posted on 09/06/2013 1:22:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Regulator

The GOP is RUN by Romney and Rove and McCain.

SSDD.
The same statists who support al Qaeda AND Soros.

Americans have had enough of the lying bastards.
Romney and McCain HAVE Already ruined the USA
by installing Obama (secondary to Romney sabotage).


64 posted on 09/06/2013 1:22:46 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Navy Patriot

BUT you used TEA party Correctly....when ‘originally’ formed (modern times) it was for Taxed Enough Already, hence the TEA with a given reference to Boston Harbor and the (supposed) dumping of tea off the ships....


65 posted on 09/06/2013 2:09:11 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: Windflier; JerseyanExile; IronJack; St_Thomas_Aquinas; Arthur Wildfire! March; Hostage; boxlunch; ..
Article V ping!

As a group, we are stuck in the mindset that we can cure our national ills if we elect the right people from the right party.

That idea is the offspring of our early history, in which it was assumed that all would be well if a virtuous people elected virtuous politicians. The first state governments and the Articles of Confederation reflected that ideal. Within a few years it was evident that model was insufficient to secure liberty.

Government must account for imperfect and less than virtuous men.

Just as the desperate people of 1787 recognized that the structure of government was not conducive to freedom, and boldly took the risk of reorganizing their government into one that did, we must acknowledge in 2013 that we face similar circumstances.

As the Framers predicted, absent a Senate of the States, ALL power will eventually flow upward. It is way beyond time for us to acknowledge a mistake, the 17th Amendment.

We must once again return to transcendent truths, that sending some virtuous men and women to political office is an insufficient safeguard, that undivided power will inevitably result in undivided tyranny. To possibly save what remains of republican freedom, power must once again be divided. The 17th Amendment must go.

An Article V amendment convention to restore federalism is the only solution.

66 posted on 09/06/2013 2:45:11 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: EveningStar

I say yes—If the GOP couldn’t take down Obama in 2012—they should go the way of the Whigs. A new party needs to surface with some real goals and guts to stand up for what they believe. The time is now—we do it at this point for it will be harder to fo in the future—The GOP is dead—The Democtas are dead too—they are Progressive-Communists now.


67 posted on 09/06/2013 3:51:53 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: dragnet2
Stupid much?
68 posted on 09/06/2013 4:18:43 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (The)
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To: Jacquerie

-— As the Framers predicted, absent a Senate of the States, ALL power will eventually flow upward. It is way beyond time for us to acknowledge a mistake, the 17th Amendment. -—

Very true. I was late to the party on this one, not understanding its importance. This will be a tough sell. I’d like to begin the amendment process with a popular measure, like congressional term limits, to accustom people to the process. Repealing the 17th would be 3 or 4 on my list.


69 posted on 09/06/2013 4:35:13 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: dragnet2

Stop bellyaching. It makes you look pathetic.

If I were a member of the American left watching you cry like a little baby like this, I’d laugh and pee in your face too.

With conservatives like you out there, no wonder taxes are going up and we have Obamacare....


70 posted on 09/06/2013 5:00:38 AM PDT by Tzimisce (The American Revolution began when the British attempted to disarm the Colonists.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Impy

“House Speaker John Boehner raise his freshly laundered white flag of surrender time and time again.”

Time for an ultimatum — if Cantor replaces Bone-head, then we leave! We want a CONSERVATIVE speaker who doesn’t lick the blood off of Obamma’s boots.


71 posted on 09/06/2013 5:20:25 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: montanajoe

“defeating Hillary”

She’s about as scandal-ridden as Obama. She could be Swift-boated on steroids. This forum was founded on Whitewater. The archives here could make a vulture puke on her.


72 posted on 09/06/2013 5:22:45 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Jacquerie

I agree wholeheartedly. I have taken the liberty of contacting a handful of the most conservative state reps here in my home state asking for their feelings on introducing a call for a constitutional convention. So far I have gotten nothing back.

If that fails, I’ll see if I can put together a coalition of conservative groups that would back the effort and then present a united front to the legislature or start moving toward introducing it as a referendum in an upcoming election cycle.


73 posted on 09/06/2013 5:24:14 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: Regulator

Speaker Boehner Will Step Down After 2014 Elections
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3062581/posts

Cantor appears to be next, poised to scream anti-semitism if he isn’t chosen. I don’t claim to know a lot about Cantor, but Impy and Friends think he’s bad news. If so, that is a hill worth fighting for. We need a REAL speaker.


74 posted on 09/06/2013 5:27:34 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: montanajoe

the Conservatives form their own party.

Let me know when you can find and organize a dozen “conservatives” to attend a county board meeting to oppose something...anything.

Until conservatives can show enough organizational skills and drive to take back their neighborhood town councils and schoolboards, the idea of organizing a national conservative movement is absurd.


75 posted on 09/06/2013 6:58:40 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: dragnet2

Who cares?

So far you’ve criticized everything and said nothing.

Other then throwing rocks, whatcha got?

Nothing. Nada.

Pull the rock back over yer head, go back to sleep


76 posted on 09/06/2013 7:07:48 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: JerseyanExile
they pretty much immediately fell into factions and formed parties. If even they, with the fires of revolution still burning hot, couldn't avoid the formation of parties, what chance do we have?

Realistically? Not much.

Forming into camps of 'us' versus 'them', is an all too human instinct.

77 posted on 09/06/2013 7:44:18 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EveningStar
The last successful third party was the Republican Party. That was over 150 years ago.

So, no.


I'm sure Whig party fans were saying the exact same thing in 1856. They were probably telling those upstart Republicans "oh you guys are going to fail, come back to the Whig party, we've elected four Presidents - William Henry Harrison, John Tyler, Zachary Taylor, and Millard Fillmore, plus we have John Quincy Adamas", and meanwhile they were losing their way.

The Tea Party might not even be a third party since the GOP and DNC have nearly become one and the same.
78 posted on 09/06/2013 7:55:37 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Regulator
The tea party is already a viable political party; it controls the republican party. The RINOS are on deathwatch and are being picked off one by one.

It doesn't quite control the GOP yet, otherwise McCain, Linda Graham, Rubio, Cantor, Boehner, etc. would be kissing TP asses instead of Democrat asses.

And as for RINOs that have been picked off, they are low-hanging fruit for the most part.

To be truly viable, the TP has to boot out McCain, Graham, Boehner, Cantor, etc. and keep another Bush/Dole/Bush/McCain/Romney from getting the nomination.

I'm finally all on board with the TP movement, even if I have an issue with some of the Koch-backed stuff. I'm definitely done with the GOP and I'm not voting for any more liberals with (R) next to their name.
79 posted on 09/06/2013 8:08:28 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: montanajoe
Hilary will win if she runs that is a fact..deal with it

Sorry, but I'm just not ready to jump on that fatalistic bandwagon. I haven't seen any evidence to indicate that she's that unassailable.

All I've seen thus far, are lots of people saying that she's a shoe-in, which means nothing in the final analysis. How many times have we watched what we thought were the strongest early contenders, be trounced when the real dance began?

I'm not buying the 'inevitable' line this far out from the election.

80 posted on 09/06/2013 8:20:19 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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