Posted on 09/04/2013 2:02:30 AM PDT by Kaslin
Remember Sen. Rand Paul’s epic talking filibuster last spring over the government’s use of lethal drone strikes? It lasted a little bit less than 13 hours and garnered him a lot of mainstream- and social-media attention, and it sounds like he feels strongly enough about the resolution on a Syrian strike the White House is hoping to push through Congress that he’s isn’t unwilling to have another go at staging a similar Senatorial showcase. Via National Journal:
Paul was not bullish on his chances of success, however, saying “it would be historic” to stop the authorization, as it has the support of President Obama, Speaker John Boehner, and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. “50-50 [odds] might be optimistic,” he said.
Still, Paul vowed to fight on in the Senate. He said that opponents of intervention in Syria, following allegations of chemical-weapons use by the government of President Bashar al-Assad, would almost assuredly push for a 60-vote majority in the Senate. …
“Whether there’s an actual standing filibuster,” he said, “I’ve got to check my shoes” and ability to tame his bladder, which is what ultimately caused the end of his drone filibuster.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid let it be known earlier today that he expects that he’ll have the votes to pass the resolution even if there is a filibuster, but whether that was a serious assessment, or a bullish ploy to make it seem more popular than it really is, remains to be seen. When the resolution does come to a vote, Paul gave us a preview of what a standing filibuster might sound like during the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing earlier today:
in Order to form a more perfect Union,
establish Justice,
insure domestic Tranquility,
provide for the common defence,
promote the general Welfare,
and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity,
do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Our Federal government should be addressing the issues of the vulnerability of our power grid and infrastructure to EMP attack, closing our borders, strengthening our military for defensive use only, abolishing unconstitutional laws that prevent us from becoming energy independent
rather than committing our military to another civil war in the Middle East where they will be fighting alongside the terrorists who attacked us 12 years ago and hate us.
A filibuster would be magnificant. But for it to be a political victory would require making it a standing filibuster - talking about the many ways that this proposed resolution could lead to our national security being threatened, terrorism being enabled, etc. This is a rare opportunity to lay it on the line about how Obaba and the party of international terror will destroy the United States.
This is the path followed by the Left: rule by mob. Whomever is the loudest carries the day.
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We are already ruled by mob, bullies and totalitiarians. If we don’t show some size and force, history will say of us as Solzenitzen said:
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
Solzhenitsyn
AND:
“How is that people who have been crushed by the sheer weight of slavery and cast to the bottom of the pit can nevertheless find the strength to rise up and free themselves, first in spirit and then in body; while those who soar unhampered over the peaks of freedom suddenly lose the taste for freedom, lose the will to defend it, and, hopelessly confused and lost, almost begin to crave slavery”.
Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
Rand is kind of a grandstander. I’d be more convinced of his intentions if he said what kind of military action that he would endorse (not Syria specifically).
If I recall correctly he is an isolationist and while we don’t need to be the world police, we also don’t need to stick our head in the ground and pretend that the world has stopped because we aren’t looking anymore.
I think it’s a done deal in the senate and the senate will vote first. Then those in the house can vote “no”.
Not even in Siege of Damascus in 634AD, the Capture of Damascus in 1918, or the Great Syrian Revolt in 1925?
And those are just the times Damascus was a “ruinous heap” off the top of my head.
Isaiah 17:1-2 says “The burden against Damascus. ‘Behold, Damascus will cease from being a city, and it will be a ruinous heap” Take it or leave it...
I agree with Paul that Kerry is making a show of consulting Congress. This is no more than theatre. It came about only because Cameron got his ass handed to him by the House of Commons. Fortunately for Kerry he really doesn’t have to stand and deliver, knowing that the opposition has more than a few minutes to shred his arguments.
The object of debate her is not what tactics is to be used but whether our trust should be put in Obama. You seem to be willing to do this; I do not.
Indeed, they were let loose in Wisconsin, and more recently in Austin.
“Imagine if russia starts to release all the stuff they have on Obama? what happens if Iran is pulled in and Israel?”
These morons are making the political calculation neither Putin or Iran will do anything about it, even after what happened Saturday.
Obama suddenly goes to Congress for Authorization, after Putin lays down his own “Red Line”, so that:
1)If Congress votes NO, they and their allies in the Media can blame “Those Obstructionist Republicans who would rather let children die horribly, than give Obama a “win””.
2)If Congress votes “Yes”, the Russians will be too intimidated by Obama’s Greatness to do anything about it.
Putin really rattled Obama’s cage, and THE MESSIAH is used to people worshipping him, not speaking down to him, and laughing in his face.
The GRU must have one hell of a psych file on Obama.
“It came about only because Cameron got his ass handed to him by the House of Commons.”
It came about Because the Russians told him in the emergency meeting on Friday that he had no authorization to attack Syria, not from the UN, or even from his own Congress, and that to do so would have severe consequences.
“This is not a game” was the quote from the Russian minister as he walked out of the meeting.
On Saturday, when it became clear that Obama was going to ignore Russia’s warning, Putin told his ships in the Med to “prepare for a serious confrontation”.
That scared the crap out of the Magnificent One, and he suddenly back-tracked to the Congress that he’d said just the day before he didn’t need the approval of.
As to Kerry, he wants to be the next President, and thinks this is his time on the World Stage, that he has wanted for so long.
The debate in the Commons showed how thin an argument Cameron had for intervening, and as you say, unlike in Libya and Egypt, the Russians actually have assets in Syria and have had for many years. If I were they I also would not let Assad be pushed aside, and for whom?
Not only a psych file.
If Rand Paul filibusters, watch for McCain’s Syrian rebel buddies to launch another chemical weapons attack mid-filibuster. It’ll be a twofer: draw the U.S. quickly into war one the one hand, and damage Rand Paul’s future political prospects by tarring him as the Senator who caused more children to be killed on the other.
the support of Obama, Speaker John Boehner, and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi.
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Rand Paul is in the Senate...
Wheres Harry Reid on this ???
Chickensoup...If he filibusters on this I think people will start gathering at the Capitol....
irish links...This is the path followed by the Left: rule by mob. Whomever is the loudest carries the day. We should avoid such behavior
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Yeah lets help Barry convince the American people they are isolated in their thinking...
lets not encourage people that most of the country agree we should not go to war with Syria...
lets have that pesty 1st Amendment “right of the people peaceably to assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievances” ignored...
HEY !!! Kid !!!
Its American to voice our opinion amnd what we want OUT LOUD where everyone can see us...
Its long over due...
Would you call the disabled American veterans of WWI who camped outside the White House demanding help and medical aid and jobs in what became known as Hooverville leftists ???
The rule by mob is in my White House...
Barry and his henchmen are trying to take us into a war from which there will be no turning back..
Its unConstitutional for a president to do what the boy king is attempting to do...
You do remember the Constitution dont you ???
LOUD is what is called for...
I’d be more convinced of his intentions if he said what kind of military action that he would endorse (not Syria specifically).
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I know the answer to that: defensive military action. Makes sense to me.
A filibuster would be magnificant. But for it to be a political victory would require making it a standing filibuster - talking about the many ways that this proposed resolution could lead to our national security being threatened, terrorism being enabled, etc. This is a rare opportunity to lay it on the line about how Obaba and the party of international terror will destroy the United States.
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Agreed
Our Federal government should be addressing the issues of the vulnerability of our power grid and infrastructure to EMP attack, closing our borders, strengthening our military for defensive use only, abolishing unconstitutional laws that prevent us from becoming energy independent
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agree, needs to be repeated, continously
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