Michigan legislative action thread
Posted on 08/29/2013 6:32:41 AM PDT by Lakeshark
The Presidential Eligibility of Ted Cruz
Got your attention yet? I have a modest proposal for ALL FReepers concerning this issue, but let me explain why there is a proposal at all.
The last couple of weeks our venerable and sainted media (peace be unto them) has decided to, after all these years of silence, bring up the issue of Presidential eligibility. The strange appearance of article after article would make you think they were about to expose the birth certificate of messiah Bambi from a Kenyan hospital and show proof of a renouncement of his citizenship while in Indonesia .
Alas, no it’s not about the eligibility of our current fearless reader, instead it’s about the eligibility of Senator Ted Cruz. For those of us hiding under rocks, Ted Cruz just happens to be one of the finest conservatives to hold office. He’s smart, engaging, persuasive, handles MSM traitors journolists like pathetic kindergartners begging for more candy, presents conservatism naturally as a compelling counter to totalitarian leftismliberalism, plus he really wants to move the country to the right normal place of excellence it once was.
Right now, Ted Cruz is trying to rally the GOP to try to defund Bambicare. He is lobbying for it in the Senate, the House, and more important is rallying the GOP voters to sign a petition urging all GOP members of Congress to join the effort to defund this monstrosity. He is in the breach, fighting the good fight, he is the spearhead of this effort. With this and other efforts he appears to have risen to the top of the leadership of conservatives in America. He has the ear and confidence of most conservatives at this point.
So, does anyone hear believe the MSM is interested in simply following the Constitution when they bring up the question of his eligibility? If you do, read no further. If you don’t believe the MSM wants us to be fighting amongst ourselves at this point, read no further.
Based on what I’ve said above: Here is my proposal:
As conservatives, as FReepers, let’s no longer do what the MSM/Soros/democrat complex wants us to do on this issue, namely fight over the eligibility of Ted Cruz and divide the conservative movement at this crucial time. For those of you who believe he is not eligible, understand these two facts:
1. Senator Cruz has not declared for a presidential run at this point, so there is NO issue. Kindly stop making it an issue, particularly right now. Stop. Cease. Desist. It is not important, he’s not running yet. Kindly don't post articles from the MSM or comment on said articles if they are only about the eligibility of Ted Cruz.
2.You are doing the bidding of the MSM/Soros/democrat complex when you do so. They’ve made it clear they want to divide us on this issue, don’t take the bait. Also, see 1. above. Kindly realize that when the Wa ComPost runs 12 articles in 2 days about this issue, it’s not to help conservatives unite.
For those of us who think he is eligible. Remember number 1. above: He is not yet running, there are more important things to do right now. If you see someone on the opposing side, I suggest you link them to this proposal and ask them if they want to continue to divide conservatives during this crucial time, ask them if they really want to carry the water of the media/Soros/democrat complex.
So here again to all: Let’s call a truce on this issue. Not to surrender your beliefs, no one has to do that yet, he is not running. Rather, let’s unite behind the conservative principles that Cruz is pointing us all to, particularly let’s unite to ask the GOP to defund Bambicare. It’s important to do so rather than to quibble over what is at this time, a nonexistent issue ginned up by our domestic opposition.
Thank you for your support.
OK; wait until he declares, then check into the eligibility issue.
I’m not certain I’ve pinged you for your input, apologies for the double ping if I have.
If seen, I will not post; if pinged, I will not reply.
I’ve checked, I know what I believe on the issue and why. What’s more important is to go after Bambicare and let the issue lie if he does declare his candidacy. The MSM is pushing this divide now, they want us not to be united over Bambicare, let’s not follow them like they’re the pied piper.
And his grades, and his background, and his beliefs, and his loyalties......
:-)
Yes and thank you. I was rushing to a Dentist appointment... what fun.
WTF are you talking about? Are you feeling okay? Did someone steal your Jimmy Carter doll?
I'm saying that someone like Cruz in the Senate leadership position is needed to fight successfully long term.
I showed you reality with the Reagan example and how history is telling you that you can't do it with just a president who, at best, is only around for 8 years.
The progressives have been in business here for a very long time and are well entrenched in society and GuvCo.
You need Congress and that requires strong, CONSISTENT leadership.
Why waste such a valuable asset as Majority Leader Cruz to run him for POTUS, especially when there is a very good chance that will divide you even more and fully rally those against you?
To me, that's bad tactics wasting what you have for something you might not get and then only benefits in the short term if you do.
Until you break the long term hold that incumbents have, as with the Liberty amendment idea, you'd better counter them with a few of your own, and McConnell or Boner ain't gettin' it done.
LLS
I know this is not particularly a MI issue, but here’s a ping for your consideration.
BTTT!
Well, that's kind of you Lake, but it's probably best that you don't invite me to comment on this subject. You know where I stand, and you and I will just wind up wrestling on the floor again.
It's cool.
They must destroy him because he is fighting the GOP establishment. That is all that this is about....
If he declares he is running for POTUS, there is no doubt the argument will reignite.
You may have just swayed me to have the same outlook.
I'm going to try the same. I'm hoping the other side will cooperate, some have expressed their agreement to do so.
Ted Cruz will never be Senate Majority leader. The position is a perk granted only to GOP-e faithful and the senate is filled with 97 cowards who would never vote for Ted Cruz for that position. In order to be senate Majority leader you have to be in the Senate long enough to make at least 51 close friends. Ted Cruz did not go to Washington to make friends. He went there to make waves.
The only promotion that Ted Cruz is in line for is the Presidency. Anyone who thinks he is not running for President right now is oblivious to the reality of politics.
I think many of them feel the same way, and are having to resist the same urge as myself. Some have explicitly stated that they simply cannot support him because of this technicality. I would urge them to reconsider because as I said, if the Democrats don't have to abide by the rules, we should feel no obligation to do so either.
Yes, this may be a violation of what we believe the Constitution to mean, but at this point there are more important aspects of the constitution which are in Danger.
As Abraham Lincoln said, sometimes you have to sacrifice a small part to save the greater part.
April 4, 1864.
...I did understand however, that my oath to preserve the constitution to the best of my ability, imposed upon me the duty of preserving, by every indispensable means, that government---that nation---of which that constitution was the organic law. Was it possible to lose the nation, and yet preserve the constitution? By general law life and limb must be protected; yet often a limb must be amputated to save a life; but a life is never wisely given to save a limb. I felt that measures, otherwise unconstitutional, might become lawful, by becoming indispensable to the preservation of the constitution, through the preservation of the nation...
Right now I'm simply pushing to get away from the eligibility issue if the other side will do so as well. A truce to unite behind the defunding effort.
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