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Let's have the conversation about race
CNN ^ | August 26, 2013 | Ruben Navarrette

Posted on 08/26/2013 2:32:05 PM PDT by neverdem

Americans are told we need to have a national conversation in which we talk about race.

And yet, when we have horrific crimes with white victims where the alleged perpetrators are African-American or Latino, we're told that we can't talk about race.

This isn't true when the roles are reversed. If the victims are African-American or Latino, and the alleged perpetrator is white, we talk about race until our throats go dry.

Confused? Join the club.

If Americans don't understand it, how are we to explain any of this to the grieving family of Christopher Lane, a 22-year-old college baseball player from Melborne, Australia, who was recently gunned down while jogging in a neighborhood a world away -- Duncan, Oklahoma?

According to police, the evidence suggests that the shooting was not premeditated and random. It could have been part of a gang initiation, according to a theory floated by the father of a boy who the three teenagers allegedly tried to recruit.

But here's the headline: Prosecutors say that the killing was not about race, despite the fact that one alleged assailant left a long cyber trail on social media where he talked about hating "woods" (derogatory slang for white people) and glorified guns and violence.

"At this point, the evidence does not support the theory that Christopher Lane was targeted based upon his race or nationality," said District Attorney Jason Hicks.

As ghoulish as it sounds, it may be that the three teenagers responsible for the shooting -- 15-year-old James Edwards and 16-year-old Chancey Luna, who have been charged with first-degree murder, and 17-year-old Michael Long, who has been charged with being an accessory after the fact to murder for driving the car -- were simply bored and decided to kill someone. Unfortunately for Lane, who was visiting his...

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To: taxcontrol
No, lets have a conversation about character and the values that Americans are expected to hold and support. This like personal responsibility, respecting the law, not stealing, or murdering, or robbing, or raping or attacking others.
. . . or using tax revenue to buy votes while promoting the destruction of personal responsibility.
Lets start with that conversation before we move on to other things like working for a living, supporting your family, getting an education to better yourself, protecting others and setting an example for your friends and family.
After that, we can move on to forget about things that really don’t matter like the color of a person’s skin.
. . . and we can best forget about things that don’t matter by actually enforcing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 - which was written to be color blind on its face, but (precisely as its opponents predicted, and as Hubert Humphrey said he would “eat my hat” if it eventuated) was from its inception enforced without the blindfold on Justice.
All it would take - and SCOTUS had the opportunity in hand with a Connecticut firefighter’s case early in Obama’s tenure, and dropped the ball - would be for SCOTUS to stipulate that there can be no discriminatition against anyone on the basis that they don’t look like sons of the POTUS. And no favoritism on the basis that some people do.

61 posted on 08/27/2013 3:30:13 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

>>It is getting to the point where words no longer have any meaning.

Worse than that, it has already gotten to the point where actions have no meaning. Zero and CupHolder get to decide (based on skin color) what a person was thinking, and condemn or pardon him on that basis.


62 posted on 08/27/2013 4:20:21 AM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: neverdem

A wise person had this to say on a previous post regarding the negro: “Never has a race of people done so little with so much opportunity afforded to them in the history of this Country”


63 posted on 08/27/2013 4:47:20 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: Impy; neverdem; fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; sickoflibs

“...Blood is red and money is green, those are the only colors of any importance...”

True... IF you are a thinking, logical, rational person.

However...Try maintaining that thought as you walk through North Philly, Camden, Newark, Detroit, Cleveland, etc.

I can guarantee you the denizens of those areas - and a thousand other places just like them in our cities - don’t feel the same way about it, brother.

It’s a reality that we live with, and must recognize to stay alive. When an 88 year old WWII vet is murdered because he’s white by feral thugs; when a 99 year old great grandmother is beaten and murdered by feral thugs because she’s white; when a 20-something year old Australian baseball star is murdered by feral thugs because he’s white, I’d say that race suddenly matters a whole hell of a lot.


64 posted on 08/27/2013 4:55:29 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: elpadre

That change will never come until government stops rewarding out of wedlock births to teen moms. Manhood’s been eliminated in the black community and replaced with a caricature, a devil’s shadow of real, godly manhood.

The family is the fundamental unit of society and it has been under attack forever. Keep yours strong and expect the same of others. Adultery, pornography, divorce are all evidences of crippled manhood.


65 posted on 08/27/2013 4:58:35 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: NFHale; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

I think a nationwide Amber Alert needs to go out for Impy...he’s been kidnapped and an imposter (or pod person) is posting under his handle.

First Moldy Cyprus, now this? Impy, what happened to you? I’ll let Deniro and Jackson explain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOkr99Ow4fo

“...Blood is red and money is green, those are the only colors of any importance...”

Again, yes, but when you’re dealing with feral animals, not so much. Being color blind these days is like jumping out of an airplane with an empty parachute.


66 posted on 08/27/2013 6:48:48 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; sickoflibs

Sorry, this Ted Cruz birther gave me some crack, I must have smoked too much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOKsskl3RmU

Still want that little hoebag Miley though. Nothing much I can do, my brain chemistry may have been permanently altered by that rock. Let this be a lesson for all of us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfHOQAT0-Mk


67 posted on 08/27/2013 4:20:18 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; NFHale; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; sickoflibs

Now that’s the old Impy! Welcome back!

:)


68 posted on 08/27/2013 4:30:42 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; NFHale

Speaking of Amber Alerts I once got one on my phone, the damn thing downloaded the software without my permission at the behest of the government.


69 posted on 08/27/2013 4:36:20 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; NFHale

That’s f**ked up.


70 posted on 08/27/2013 4:44:03 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Time to musk up.)
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To: GOPsterinMA; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; sickoflibs

RE Impy:

I was worried about him... he seems OK now, though.... (psst - but keep an eye on him)

:^)


71 posted on 08/28/2013 4:24:57 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Impy; GOPsterinMA

I did too. Also “Severe Weather Alert” messages.

I don’t need the gov to tell me its raining.


72 posted on 08/28/2013 4:26:12 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

That’s not rain.


73 posted on 08/28/2013 6:08:41 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“..not rain...”

Yeah... it’s yellow...


74 posted on 08/28/2013 6:39:53 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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