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Does Media Violence Lead to the Real Thing?
NY Times ^ | August 23, 2013 | VASILIS K. POZIOS, PRAVEEN R. KAMBAM and H. ERIC BENDER

Posted on 08/24/2013 4:10:28 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Whether it is true or not, violence is not a bad thing. Violence is not a good thing. It's a tool used by one side against another.

In movies, it's used to send messages. What happens to these Mafiosos in the movies? They get offed. That's part of the lesson.

21 posted on 08/24/2013 5:03:22 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: neverdem
Does Media Violence Lead to the Real Thing?

No. Cain and Abel didn't have TV or Nintendo.

22 posted on 08/24/2013 5:24:20 PM PDT by conservativeimage (I Won't Go Underground http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wema3CNqzvg)
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To: neverdem
The MSM glorify killing for the sake of killing. this is immoral and despicable. that is a good description of the media members themselves.
23 posted on 08/24/2013 5:35:38 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: neverdem

Media violence teases sick minds.


24 posted on 08/24/2013 5:36:26 PM PDT by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: neverdem
carrey is an azzhole of the first magnitude...
25 posted on 08/24/2013 5:51:42 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem
We would never say: “I’ve smoked cigarettes for a long time, and I don’t have lung cancer. Therefore there’s no link between smoking cigarettes and lung cancer.”

Normal people wouldn't say it, but there is a bunch of FReepers who say it all the time.

26 posted on 08/24/2013 5:53:50 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: neverdem

It can’t help the weakest among us.

Given the concern the left voices over a gun crazed culture it’s interesting how much they ignore the violence in media.

The left sells the violence, starts the race wars, uses the media money for funding and works to disarm us.


27 posted on 08/24/2013 5:54:05 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The reason we are where we are today is the belief that posting on a website will fix the nation.)
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To: DeWalt

and JK Rowling is recruiting for Satan


28 posted on 08/24/2013 6:03:29 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Drone strike on Michael Grunwald: you know it makes sense)
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To: umgud

TV violence in the past, didn’t glorify it, but did distinguish between good & bad.

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Very true. And it was always easy to know which ones were the good guys and which ones were the bad guys.


29 posted on 08/24/2013 6:30:03 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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To: DeWalt
Or that Mein Kampf had anything to do with killing jews?

It didn't. In fact it should be read by as many people as possible to serve as a warning and a lesson about the evils of socialism we face today.

Ironically, "Crystallizing Public Opinion" by American progressive Jew Edward Bernays probably did more to kill European Jews than any other single published word. Joseph Goebbels said the book was one of his primary sources in developing his propaganda campaign against the Jews.

Mein Kampf was the ramblings of an egotistical sociopath. It provided an insight into Hitler and his ideas but it didn't cause the death of anyone.
30 posted on 08/24/2013 6:35:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: skeeter
The news media is responsible for far, far more murder and mayhem in this nation than any violent movie fiction.

I am so so so on the same page with you here. If they didn't blast every gun story to the world many disturbed folk would find another way to act out.

What we have today are a hundred Columbine copycats.

31 posted on 08/24/2013 6:42:46 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: neverdem

The MSM promotes violence and racism.


32 posted on 08/24/2013 6:44:43 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A white woman would be accused of racism if she gave birth to a white baby.)
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To: neverdem

East Feliciana Parish Sheriff’s Office officials say they believe an 8-year-old intentionally pulled the trigger and killed an elderly woman Thursday evening right after playing ‘Grand Theft Auto IV’
http://www.wafb.com/story/23242078/investigators-believe-8-year-old-intentionally-killed-90-year-old-woman


33 posted on 08/24/2013 7:05:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: neverdem

I remember reading about a study years ago that indicated violent tv shows increased the amount of child abuse.


34 posted on 08/24/2013 7:16:37 PM PDT by kathsua
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To: neverdem

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/08/25/11/24/eight-year-old-boy-shoots-caregiver-after-playing-video-game

The boy’s caregiver, Marie Smothers, was sitting in a chair and watching television inside her caravan in Slaughter, Louisiana, when the boy fired one round and killed her, the East Feliciana Parish Sheriff’s Office said.
He had used the elderly woman’s .38-caliber pistol, the boy’s father said.


35 posted on 08/24/2013 7:30:30 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: umgud

That’s an important point.

I’m in favor of freedom of speech, but that doesn’t mean I think it’s healthy for anyone anywhere any time to be exposed to anything and everything that the media produce.

The age of the viewer is a factor.

The amount of viewing is a factor.

I’ve read multiple studies and argued with a few conservatives on this issue.

The cigarette analogy is a good one.

Common sense (and it’s backed up by various studies) says that allowing a young child to spend hour after hour immersed in gory, violent imagery cannot be healthy for his development. IIRC, the most critical ages were 8-12 years.

Consider these differences from the past: Your point about the glorification of violence. Your point about distinguishing good from bad. The level of goriness is much higher than in the past. The frequency of violence is much higher than in the past. The number of hours spent viewing violence is much higher than in the past. The number of sources is much higher than in the past. Kids used to only see movies, so maybe once a week. Then TV became common, but the number of channels and the shows available were limited. Now many, if not most, kids have access to cable which means that by flipping channels they are able to view violence 24/7 if they want to. Most parents are not monitoring, much less restricting, their kids viewing because they are more concerned with being pals than with being parents. Add in the internet. Add in violent video games.

This all serves to “normalize” violence in the mind of the viewer - even more so in the mind of a younger viewer. Decision making skills and self-restraint are not fully developed until the 20s. Coping mechanisms and patterns are established primarily in the late teens and early twenties.

Many viewers are unable to comprehend the reality of violence when they have been exposed to so much artificial violence. On TV, victims are often fully recovered by the next week.

For many viewers, the constant exposure to violence makes them jaded. Think back to something you once found distasteful - gutting a fish, dissecting a frog, changing a diaper. For most of us, if we repeat those actions on a regular basis, they lose their initial “ick” factor and become fairly mundane. The same happens with violence. It loses its shock value. In doing so, especially on such a wide swath of the population, it steals some of our humanity.


36 posted on 08/24/2013 8:39:58 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Darren McCarty

As well, has anyone noticed what has happened to women?? Society changes based on the messages it receives that tell it what’s ok and what’s not. Every single film, in order to make women “equal” with men, have women fighting and being fought against......by MEN. You don’t think that has repercussions as to how men feel towards women? They are open season now, and btw they love it (ha ha), at least Hollywood actresses who play them do, always spouting off about “Ya! Girl Power!”. They can’t complain then, when men begin to believe the new norm and HIT women!!! No more, “a boy never hits a girl”. That would be sexist!


37 posted on 08/25/2013 9:51:33 AM PDT by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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