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1 posted on 08/12/2013 12:08:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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SPAIN ACCUSES GIBRALTAR OF BUILDING ON STOLEN LAND


2 posted on 08/12/2013 12:09:31 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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4 posted on 08/12/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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And Spain will soon be going to the European Union,of which Britain is one of the main “donor” countries (along with Germany,Finland and a few others),looking for a half trillion euro bailout.
5 posted on 08/12/2013 12:12:10 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To hell with what those falklanders want!


6 posted on 08/12/2013 12:12:50 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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Spain has several separatist movements who would just love to get some moral and legal support from other countries. Spain had better watch out what it might start.


7 posted on 08/12/2013 12:13:07 PM PDT by Truth29
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The UK government is considering legal action against Spain

In a more civilized time, the UK would have just started shelling the Spanish coast. "It's ours. We're not giving up our sovereignty. You need to shut up."

9 posted on 08/12/2013 12:14:20 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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Took a cruise a few years ago that stopped at Gilbralter for a day. The 99 year lease is over, but the Brits aren't about to give it up. One claim is that they have to protect those ugly nasty apes descended from the ones pirates left there a long time ago. Lots of expatriots live there....I forget from where.

The thing that's weird is Gibralter depends on Spain for garbage removal and electricity....they'd really have trouble being truly independent on that rock.

Weird day. Nasty apes. Great view from the top of the rock.

12 posted on 08/12/2013 12:19:27 PM PDT by grania
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I strongly recommend that Spain put together a great naval Spanish Armada and sail it toward Endland to bring Great Britain to its knees.

I’m sure that would work out well.


16 posted on 08/12/2013 12:25:45 PM PDT by House Atreides ( D)
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This is a stupid move on the part of Spain. Their economy is in the tank and they really need all of the help that they could possibly get. They really can’t afford to poke Great Britain in the eye and yet they are doing it. Dumb.


17 posted on 08/12/2013 12:28:03 PM PDT by Pamlico (Oppose 0bama at every opportunity)
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Does this mean that Spain intends to give up Ceuta and Melilla?
21 posted on 08/12/2013 12:35:35 PM PDT by jdege
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Pirates were operating on the south island from a place called Puerto Solodad capturing or harrassing Clipper ships going around the cape heading toward and from California. It wasn’t the Brits that drove the pirates out of Puerto Soledad handed their butts over to The Viceroy of Argentina, and burned down the town leaving the place vacant.

That’s a piece of history buried in PC even during the Falklands war you never heard about.


23 posted on 08/12/2013 12:36:09 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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Good luck with that.
Britain and the US will never allow it.


24 posted on 08/12/2013 12:36:19 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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Spain and GB both are members of NATO and the Gibraltar-GB relatioship poses NO national secuirty threat to Spain, whatsoever.

Though Spanish settlers on Gibraltar sank to nearly nil immediately after Britsh & Dutch naval forces took possession of the rock in 1703, Britain, unlike Spain, declared Gibraltar a free port and kept it that way and immigrants from the region, including from Spain, and from Britain continued, to where

today Gibraltarians of Spanish descent make up about 27% of the local population and Gibraltarians of British descent about 24%, with the rest from many countries in the region
and beyond, and

in many referendums majorities of Gibraltarians have repeatedly voted that they DO NOT want their relationship with Britain changed.

Spain is not acting in the interests of the people of Spain, or the people of Gibraltar, or even the people of
Gibraltar of Spanish descent.

It as acting for one reason alone - wounded historical pride.

Like Obama, the Spanish government must need a popular diversion from its real problems and scandals.


28 posted on 08/12/2013 12:42:29 PM PDT by Wuli (uir)
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the people living there have repeatedly voted to remain independent and aligned with the UK...

There have been two elections, and both times it would just about redefine the word landslide:

Vote in 1967: 12,138 votes to 44, NO WAY!

Vote in 2002: 17,900 votes to 187, NO WAY!

30 posted on 08/12/2013 12:45:34 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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Spain and Argentina; now there’s a pair of global powerhouses!


32 posted on 08/12/2013 12:46:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Hispano-Racism extends to Spain...also

Whether its Illegal Alien Amnesty on America....or seizing Anglophonic colonies against the will of the citizens....Hispano-Racism is a big problem


33 posted on 08/12/2013 12:46:46 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Difference between George Zimmerman and Al Sharpton is that Sharpton woulda let honky family burn)
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Cameron is such a whimp he’ll probably hand them over,

Go UKIP!


34 posted on 08/12/2013 12:47:06 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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...to discuss the possibility of both countries supporting each other’s territorial ambitions...

Color me crazy, but this statement could be construed as a prelude to war.

Territorial ambitions have started more wars than I can name or count.

Let's be honest. Many diplomats just plain suck. Probably a missed translation...

5.56mm

37 posted on 08/12/2013 12:53:02 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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If they’re looking for a compromise, I’d be willing to take over as benevolent dictator, if the pay was adequate.


41 posted on 08/12/2013 2:06:49 PM PDT by jdege
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You have to wonder whether Spain REALLY want Gibraltar because the ‘issue’ of Gibraltar is far more important to a struggling government than the territory itself would be.

If they wanted Gibraltar so badly they would have spent time attempting to woo the populace - treating them with kid gloves, offering incentives for them to ultimately be open to Spanish sovereignty, love bombing them - not treating them like this.

The Spanish government is in a mess right now. Scandals have hit their king, and Mariano Rajoy, the prime minister, seems powerless as unemployment continues to rise on an extraordinary scale. Gibraltar, like the Falklands for the ghastly Kirchner, must be a wonderful respite from domestic woes.

The impotent hypocritical rage of Rajoy and Kirchner would be amusing to watch if it didn’t cause such inconvenience and concern to the citizens of Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands. The pair will make an interesting team. Let them embrace each other. By your friends ye shall be known. The British are alongside the Americans in Afghanistan. I’m sure the Spanish and Argentine governments will delight in anti-British rhetoric, but it will not help the hard-pressed citizens of either nation.


48 posted on 08/12/2013 11:55:50 PM PDT by Tredegar
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