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Trayvon not problem, shooter was
The Dunkirk Observer ^ | August 12, 2013 | Paul Christopher

Posted on 08/11/2013 11:24:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It would seem obvious, wouldn't it, that Trayvon Martin is dead because he was a black boy in the wrong part of town?

I think most reasonable people know that all blacks are periodically subjected to being stopped for "driving while black" or even "walking while black." There's hardly a study done anywhere by anybody that doesn't show that type of thing to be a common and unfair occurrence in the black community.

Statistical abuse of minorities is well-documented. Me, personally, I say Trayvon Martin is dead for two reasons and neither specifically because of his race. He's dead because of a vigilante gun culture filled with George Zimmermans who want nothing more in life than to shoot a "bad guy" and the routine stereotyping of others by far too many Americans of all stripes.

George Zimmerman would have acted the same way if Trayvon had been a white boy with a Day-Glo Green Mohawk or a Hispanic with baggy pants and a hoodie. Trayvon Martin is dead because he ran into George Zimmerman, a walking time bomb and wannabe cop with a strong streak of traditional American vigilantism running deeply through his DNA.

We all tend to blame issues with kids on violent video games and the like. Maybe George Zimmerman watched one too many episodes of "Law and Order." We'll never know for sure, but in my opinion based on what was said at trial, listening to Zimmerman's 911 call, he was chomping at the bit for an opportunity to pull that piece.

Trayvon made the mistake of not allowing Zimmerman to draw and holler "FREEZE!!!" and it cost him his life.

Unfortunately for a lot of people, Zimmerman has become the worst example of even the most reasonable "Stand Your Ground Laws" and gives fuel to the fire of the anti-gun crowd. Zimmerman is the poster boy for gun control. Try to get past Trayvon's skin color, picture your own kid, or any kid, dressed like I described and walking through Zimmerman's neighborhood that night. Kids do not generally dress like their parents.

Some kids will adopt rebellious clothing and hairstyles just to infuriate adults in general and those in authority in particular, eventually being negatively stereotyped as drug users or criminals or just all-around trouble. The George Zimmermans of the world will be at the forefront of that stereotyping. The Trayvon Martins will be on the receiving end of their wrath.

Historically, Italians, the Irish and Poles, and certainly the Jews, have paid with their lives for those stereotypes. So have Beatniks and Hippies and Transvestites and others obviously not in the mainstream. It doesn't take much in America, and never has.

In New York City, there has been much controversy over a practice called "stop and frisk." That practice allows New York City police to stop and search anyone they deem to be "suspicious." Is anyone surprised that 85 percent of those subjected to that ordeal are black and Hispanic? Another quirk to that practice is that possession of a small amount of marijuana is a violation in New York, the same level of crime as a traffic ticket.

Displaying that same marijuana in public is a misdemeanor, a higher level of crime which will result in an arrest record, preventing many job opportunities and any loans or help for college for anyone convicted of that drug offense. In "stop and frisk," a policeman orders a young man selected to empty their pockets. When they do, if they have any pot, they have now publicly displayed it, and are arrested and charged with a misdemeanor!

This is apparently legal. In America? And people wonder where Zimmerman came from and why Trayvon Martin is dead? We have institutionalized legal discrimination and harassment of people based solely on skin color and ethnicity. (I do wish the ACLU would worry a bit more about this sort of thing and a whole lot less about Christmas displays on government property.)

While in Florida, I read a letter to the local newspaper from a gentleman who'd been hiking in a nature preserve. He was on a smaller, less traveled side trail with some camera equipment. He came upon one of the main trails, and as he exited the woods, he startled another man hiking who was wearing a pistol in a shoulder holster. The man with the pistol grabbed for his gun, then relaxed and continued on his way. As the letter writer pointed out, as long as the man with that pistol could make a claim, he felt legitimately threatened, and mistook the writer's camera equipment for a weapon, and had shot him, under Florida's Stand Your Ground Law, he could not be charged, especially when the only contradicting voice was silenced forever. You know, like Trayvon's. Thank God Zimmerman wasn't hiking those woods, as we all know what he'd have done.

Yes, Trayvon Martin's race had something to do with his death, but I still make the point that our swing to the right, with the accepted abuse of our Constitutional rights by those who claim to be its staunchest supporters, all those "hang 'em high" Law and Order types in love with all things NRA had more to do with it than Trayvon's race. Ignorance and stereotyping was the spice to that deadly stew, ignorance and stereotyping institutionalized by the police, by the court system at all levels and unfortunately by a large percentage of the population. A population that winks at Fourth Amendment violations by all in charge of enforcing those rights ought to scare all of us.

The next time one of your kids or grandkids leaves your house, take a really good look at them, look at their clothing, look at their hair and their makeup and think to yourself, "What would George Zimmerman make of them?" Or the police? Or a judge?


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KEYWORDS: blacks; selfdefense; trayvon; zimmerman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LIAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If trayvon had gone home to his gangbanging daddy’s girlfriend’s home and made lean and gotten higher than he was... and NOT ATTACKED GEORGE ZIMMERMAN LIKE THE PUNK_ASSED B!TCH THAT HE WAS... he would be alive... at least for a little longer until his punkness got the better of him. He was headed for hell long before Zimmerman.

LLS


41 posted on 08/12/2013 4:18:44 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Mark17

I need more proof of his Viet Nam bona fides. He looks like a new Ward Churchill to me.


42 posted on 08/12/2013 4:18:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...being stopped for "driving while black" or even "walking while black."

He forgot some of his list: Thugism while Black; gang rape while Black; gang beat-down of elderly while Black; robbery while Black; murder while Black; pimping and Drano cocktails while Black, etc., etc., etc....

43 posted on 08/12/2013 4:33:15 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He assumes so much. I guess he knows better what ole George was thinking than George ever did!


44 posted on 08/12/2013 4:36:01 AM PDT by Shimmer1 ("What a poor, ignorant, malicious, short-sighted, crapulous mass." John Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would like to ask him how many Trayvons were in the Airborne with him? How many now?

I bet most bent leg soldiers would agree that Zimmerman did right.


45 posted on 08/12/2013 5:11:24 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paul You are not thinking straight


46 posted on 08/12/2013 5:18:59 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would appear that Dunkirk NY does not have a large Negro population:
DUNKIRK 2010:”The racial makeup of the city was 65.70% White, 5.1% Black or African American, 0.52% Native American, 0.50 Asian, 0.02% Pacific Islander, 9.14% from other races, and 1.8% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 26.40% of the population.”

However one of the minority in the area really was a one man AIDS epidemic:
NUSAWN WILLIAMS
http://www.observertoday.com/page/content.detail/id/585028/Attorney—Nushawn-Williams-does-not-have-HIV.html?nav=5007

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/features/jamestown0601.htm

hhttp://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/nyregion/20nushawn.html?ref=nushawnjwilliams&_r=0

Can hardly wait till Christopher writes him up./not


47 posted on 08/12/2013 5:23:47 AM PDT by BilLies (I despise The Progressive Liberal American Press, its corporations, management, reporters, readers.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So I guess self defense is no longer the law.


48 posted on 08/12/2013 5:36:44 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The author of this piece of krap is a lefty suckhole

If racial unrest follows Zimmerman jury decision, blame it on Activist Obama
Saturday, July 13, 2013 12:08:14 PM · 18 of 26
mosesdapoet to rktman
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3042477/posts
This is reference to an editorial run in Canada Free Press. The Canadians got it right.! Too bad half of the so called conservatives talk show hosts I’ve been listening to can’t seem to be willing to connect the dots to what a heavy hand his imperious highness played in this example of socialist justice meted out to serve the policies of the state . Turning this into a show trial replete with wall to wall tv coverage. Using some poor guy of mixed race including black just doing his job painting a target on his back to fullfill a socialist agenda.

It’s the second time the President of the United States has interjected himself into a confrontation between those in authority on legal grounds reasonably questioned and released someone involved in a curious activity in a patrolled area. Could this attitude be based from the idealized communist concept that there is no such thing as “private” property because the state (collective) owns the land ? .

In both cases those representing “authority” were reported as “white” . In the second case the person working security was attacked while on private rights of way while on foot discontinued an observation and was returing to his vehicle after being instructed by the police to do so. Legally he could have approached Saint Trayvon but didn’t. He was allowed to continue on his way.unimpeded. But didn’t. Trayvon doubled back and attacked the “neighborhood watch” worker as he was returing to his vehicle. Knocked him to the ground and began beating him severly. Saint Trayvon the attacker was subsequently killed in a struggle over the Neighborhood Watchman’s legal pistol.

In the second case both were dark skined.

Since the Zimmernan not guilty verdict has been rendered, the facts of this case are still being shamefully being concealed by the media to the extent they are advancing and are complicit in permitting a putrid injstice to be committed of the worst order,organized and instituted by our governent.While denied. It began as a miscalculation when a surname of a Jewish origin shot up and lighted the heavens like a star shell in the darkest of nights. It would have been difused if the media used pictures of both side by side because they look like cousins. And the area where this occured of paycheck to paycheck struggling homeowners of all races trying to protect themselves had been reported and not some ritzy all white enclave.they portrayed..Worse yet the media is still pilling it on with ABC editing a a black jury members (remember when they were all white)t remarks to make it sound like she accused Zimmerman of murder .

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3048225/posts http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3048631/posts


49 posted on 08/12/2013 5:55:40 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paul Christopher: "I say Trayvon Martin is dead for two reasons."

No, Mr. Christopher. There's only one reason: Trayvon Martin voluntarily chose to feloniously assault an armed George Zimmerman, an act which, in retrospect, represented a fatally flawed decision on the part of Martin.
50 posted on 08/12/2013 7:38:00 AM PDT by Milton Miteybad (I am Jim Thompson. {Really.})
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The details of my life are quite inconsequential... very well, where do I begin? My father was a relentlessly self-improving boulangerie owner from Belgium with low grade narcolepsy and a penchant for buggery. My mother was a fifteen year old French prostitute named Chloe with webbed feet. My father would womanize, he would drink. He would make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he would accuse chestnuts of being lazy. The sort of general malaise that only the genius possess and the insane lament. My childhood was typical. Summers in Rangoon, luge lessons. In the spring we'd make meat helmets. When I was insolent I was placed in a burlap bag and beaten with reeds- pretty standard really. At the age of twelve I received my first scribe. At the age of fourteen a Zoroastrian named Vilma ritualistically shaved my testicles. There really is nothing like a shorn scrotum... it's breathtaking- I highly suggest you try it.

51 posted on 08/12/2013 7:42:06 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You can’t stop and frisk for drug. It’s only for a weapon.


52 posted on 08/12/2013 7:45:46 AM PDT by HawkHogan
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To: NoLibZone
Trayvon attacked George because he thought George was gay.

No, Trayvon attacked George because he thought George was a neighborhood watch guy.

Rachel lied. Trayvon didn't say 'crazy ass cracker', he said...

It's slang for a militant uncle tom. These T-shirts were for sale in Florida.

In 'blackinese', pussy ass cracker means a wanna be cop, or security guard, or neighborhood watch volunteer.

This is why he attacked George. Trayvon thought he had gotten 'caught'. He knew what that would mean.

53 posted on 08/12/2013 8:11:49 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: miss marmelstein

“I need more proof of his Viet Nam bona fides. He looks like a new Ward Churchill to me.”

You’re right. Nine out of ten men I meet who claim to be Vietnam Veterans were never in Vietnam. They search the internet for information and create a story that usually falls apart within two sentences of a conversation.

For some reason, they always claim to have been Airborne, Special Forces, and Recon; no one yet has ever claimed to have been a truck driver, clerk, cook, or anything unglamorous.

However, this guy’s mention of the Ashau Valley and UGS (Unattended Ground Sensors) did ring a familiar bell.
http://www.projectdelta.net/wrong_valley.htm


54 posted on 08/12/2013 8:39:09 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: meatloaf
"Trayvon was a thug plain and simple. He was out to count coup for bragging rights by giving a beat down to a creepy ass cracker."

You just said the same thing I said. My point was that it's BS for she-cow to have said Martin thought Zimmerman was a homo out to rape him. Martin was a thug, f-ed up on Lean, who wanted to break into homes and beat the crap out of whites. His hate got him killed. That's my point, and it rings very true.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

55 posted on 08/12/2013 9:44:45 AM PDT by wku man (Amnesty? No Way, Jose (No Se Puede!) by 10 Pound Test http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsTUQ8yOI2c)
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To: DJ Taylor

It’s like reincarnation. No one is ever a poverty-stricken leprosy victim. They’re always Cleopatra!


56 posted on 08/12/2013 11:48:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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