"And when she's not making policy decisions while I'm golfing,
vacationing, or getting blitzed on my Teeter Hang-up,
Valerie directs IRS targeting of those who do not worship me,
and oversees our joint offshore holdings of federal funds."
Well, this story has made the big time, so Doug Ross better not be pulling this out of his arse.
The US Congress simply does not care.
If it is not about BROTHELS, WHORES, BEING DRUNK,
“RAPING” the AMERICAN TAXPAYER, Funding al QAEDA,
or helping criminals, the US Congress is TOO busy
cashing their payoffs and bribes.
Ping for later
Folks looks like the truth will be revealed drip by drip. Good for Rush for mentioning this. One can not buried the truth for so long.
Thanks Rush! Now how do we find the smoking gun to prove it?
Fact One:
1) Only the POTUS can authorize a CBA (cross border authority) command for a rescue mission in a foreign nation.
Plus Fact Two:
2) No rescue mission was attempted.
Equals Fact Three:
3) 0bama turned his back on 41 State Dept. and CIA employees refusing to issue a CBA command and went to bed so he could go to Las Vegas the next day.
Valerie Jarrett, who constitutionally is not in the chain of command and cannot do that.”
lol. the hell she can’t!
“And that’s why this, if true, is a bombshell.”
lol. it is true, and it is no bombshell.
The WH has declined, repeatedly, to describe his whereabouts.
Kind of makes you go “hmmmmmmmmm.”
Sounds to me like Barry had an appointment in Boystown, and he wasn’t going to miss it for anything as trivial as a murdered Ambassador.
It’s tricky.
The president has to affirmatively allow military action in other countries.
Was there a scheme so Obama could give the military “cross border authority” yet prevent it from acting through other means?
It certainly sounds like something the WH would have done but that's not enough for so much conjecture.
Obama was in the White House the whole time.
So, what was he doing that evening?
Why would ANYONE else be making his decisions for him that night?
The key to Benghazi is what was Obama doing the night of September 11th?
When we know that, we will know what kind of people we really are by what our response is.
The nit picky difference is that Jarrett likely told the Sec-Def that “The Prez is NOT providing Cross Border Authority”
The net effect is the same as a “stand down” order, but there’s technical difference.
I hope BO is forced to acknowledge that is the thin reed he’s hiding behind.
Has Rush mentioned her lizardly dastardly simularities?
If the POS is in the bath house, VJ can do it.
OK. Let’s say Jarrett told Panetta and Dempsey that no assistance was to be given. Pretty easy to determine. Bring Panetta and Dempsey in and put them under oath and ask them.
This is easy to cover with an agreed upon lie by Obama and Jarrett UNLESS they can show Obama being someplace else.
It’s also too easy. Obama could just say he never told her that and throw her under the bus.
Why did Hillary and Obama use US taxpayer funded personnel, equipment and facilities to overthrow the government of Libya?
This is the first time I’ve heard that an AC-130 was already in Libya. I’ve previously understood that the nearest air support was in Sicily or elsewhere in Europe. But it makes sense that it was already in Libya:
Navy Seal Tyrone Woods was a highly trained soldier. He would not laser paint a target unless he was highly certain that air support was nearby or on its way. To paint a target is to risk your own life.
He must have thought that air support was present or on its way. For Tyronne Woods to think this, he must have known that air support was present in Libya. And this air support would have to have the ability to respond to a laser-painted target. The AC-130 has this ability, and the article says that an AC-130 was present at the Tripoli airport at the time.
So,
Since the AC-130 is a large, slow airplane. It is unlikely that it was there without the permission of the Libyan government. Since this equipment was already on Libyan soil, why is Cross-Border authorization even relevant?
My understanding is that the local commanding officer had standing orders to use all available resources to perform a rescue, if needed. If the AC-130 is already on Libyan soil, the local commander already had the authorization to use it.
So, to my understanding, the real issue is, who ACTIVELY gave an order to override existing standing orders to perform a rescue?
If Navy Seal Tyronne Woods laser-painted a target, he must have left the annex to attempt a rescue BEFORE he had knowledge that the override order was given. WHEN was the order to stand down given?
May 5, 2013: Issa Reveals Explosive Details From Benghazi Whistleblowers
Maybe the REAL thing they are trying to hide is that Obama did go to bed and it was really Valerie Jarrett calling the shots.That would make Obama actually look like a puppet who is allowed to take outrageous vacations and play golf all the time, while an unelected person is making all the decisions in Obama's name, without Obama's involvement or participation.
THAT would make people step back and ask why Obama is even there, if others are doing all the work.
This wouldn't be a case of an "executive" President (like Reagan was reported to be) who actively lays out strategic parameters and let's his subordinates work out the actual details. This would be a case of a completely disengaged President who is not participating in the daily rigors of the job.
Same thread, the debate continues...
So you say Obama ordered the stand-down, and I say that Obama was disengaged and Valerie Jarrett ordered the stand-down, even though she is not in the chain-of-command. The end result is the same, the order to stand down.If Obama left it to Jarrett and then walked away, it would be extreme deriliction of duty. Obama is the President, not Jarrett. Obama convinced 50 million people to vote for him just weeks after this happened, not Jarrett.
If Obama was found to have lied to the American people in order to win the election, and then cover it up after he won, and if the MSM and the people behave as they have in the past (Nixon covering up the break-in), then Obama SHOULD be forced from office. Americans don't like blatent stealing and cheating from their leaders.
And especially if it was the election that the People feel was won on false pretenses, not stolen votes.
The debate goes on...
Still more...
Still, my point is this: If Obama did not give any order - stand-down or go - because he wasn't there and it was Jarrett giving the order, would Panetta accept that as legal chain-of-command? Would the Generals?I think that's our disagreement. You are saying that Obama did give the order, because he must have due to the chain-of-commang standing down. I am saying that a differnt chain-of-command was accepted, with Jarrett, not an absent Obama, calling the shots.
And everyone accepted it as Constitutional and authorative
Got it. Default inaction.It concludes...I would have hoped to see people try harder to get Obama into the game. I can't beleve that a "Do Not Disturb" sign hanging from Obama's door was enough to stop the most powerful military in the world.
I'm sure that sent a very clear message to our enemies about how America will react to aggessions. Just do it after 9:00PM ET on a weeknight.
More like, Jarrett said don't wake him up because he has a big day tomorrow in Las Vegas.May 8, 2013: Live Thread: Benghazi Whistleblowers Hearing 11:30 A.M. EDT 5/08/13Still, taking that from Jarrett is a de facto order to stand-down, if that was what was the standing default order. It's the same thing: Panetta took unconstitutional orders from Jarrett, not Obama. He should have walked right past her and knocked on Obama's door himself.
I still wonder if Obama was absent and others (Jarrett?) gave "orders" that were followed in Obama's name?
-PJ
"And when she's not making policy decisions while I'm golfing,
vacationing, or getting blitzed on my Teeter Hang-up,
Valerie directs IRS targeting of those who do not worship me,
and oversees our joint offshore holdings of federal funds."