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Cleveland Police Disciplining 75 Cops After An Unarmed Couple Was Shot At 137 Times
Business Insider ^ | 08/02/2013 | Pamela Engel

Posted on 08/06/2013 7:37:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

Cleveland police officials said Friday they're disciplining 75 of officers for their involvement in a police chase that ended in the shooting deaths of an unarmed man and woman, The Plain Dealer reports.

The pair were shot at 137 times while in their car, parked in a middle school parking lot. No officers were injured in what police called a "full blown-out" firefight.

Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine told reporters in February that "there is nothing normal about this case. ... This is a tragedy."

In November, about 60 police vehicles pursued the two suspects in a 25-minute chase spanning three cities. One suspect, 30-year-old Malissa Williams, was shot 24 times, and the other, 43-year-old Timothy Russell, was shot 23 times.

~snip~

But after the chase ended in a gunfight near Heritage Middle School, police checked the car and realized neither Williams nor Russell was armed.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: banglist; cleveland; donutwatch; govtabuse; guncontrol; leo; moronwithbadge; rapeofliberty; secondamendment; warriorcops
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To: Sgt_Schultze

“Armed assault?”

No, execution by firing squad.


61 posted on 08/06/2013 8:46:14 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Responsibility2nd

I guess taking a defense position and waiting them out is not standard protocol these days...


62 posted on 08/06/2013 8:46:38 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I guess the alternative is to let criminals know cops won't chase them if they start driving a little crazy.

So if your family is mowed down in a crosswalk by some cop moving at 85mph, while chasing a 19 year old idiot for stealing a beer, it's OK by you?

63 posted on 08/06/2013 8:48:32 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“It isn’t clear whether a shot was actually fired at the officer who initiated the chase. Some speculate the Malibu driven by Russell may have backfired.”

calling B.S. on this. Just say “gun” and it then justifies any level of response by LEOs.

“.... it soon became clear that more than a dozen officers had been firing at one another across a middle school parking lot in East Cleveland.”

“City officials have already expanded the timeline for their investigation after learning that more than 115 officers, a third of the force on the road that night, were involved.”

Let me get in on the act, maybe I can fire my gun!

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2013/02/cleveland_police_chase_and_shooting_scene.html


64 posted on 08/06/2013 8:51:37 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“Can’t really work up any tears for scum who runs from or tries to fight the police.”

I’d archive that comment and come back to talk to us if and when Obamacare rolls out, and you can’t afford the premium, or the penalty.

If you hadn’t noticed, the idea here is to criminalize everyone. If everybody is guilty of something, as you no doubt are, then its easy for the police to look at us all as perpetrators, and not citizens.

You can only draw your weapon under certain circumstances, and you can only FIRE it under even more limited circumstances.

137 times?


65 posted on 08/06/2013 8:51:43 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Navy Patriot
And there you have the problem, consistent irresponsible, undisciplined, unprofessional, conduct enabled by obstruction of justice and perjury, systemic and tolerated in the police department.

Absolutely...You'd think they had stopped some mass murdering international terrorist who just blew up 300 people in Cleveland....

66 posted on 08/06/2013 8:51:51 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: ZULU

Also, why were they willing to assume that the passenger in the car was there willingly? Why wasn’t there an attempt to determine that she wasn’t under some duress by the driver before they shot her? People do sometimes are forced into a car or else unknowingly get into a car driven by a criminal or someone with a record. Why were they all willing to believe she needed to die rather than that she needed to be rescued?


67 posted on 08/06/2013 8:53:28 AM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Yeah, well, until then, I won’t lose any sleep over drunk, coked up losers who would rather risk the lives of innocent citizens than face, what, a suspended license/DUI charge?


68 posted on 08/06/2013 8:57:40 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: dragnet2

My family would get out of the way.


69 posted on 08/06/2013 8:58:46 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Responsibility2nd; PLMerite
No innocent people were harmed. Either by a drunk and stoned driver, or the cops who stopped him.

Cops kill innocent people all the time when chasing low level, 3rd rate crooks.

And cities and counties get sued into the next century over these moronic pursuits, most of which usually involve some relatively non-violent, low level crime like speeding, a stolen vehicle, outstanding warrants, etc.

Killing innocent people on the streets to make a GD arrest should NEVER be an option.

70 posted on 08/06/2013 9:02:41 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: certrtwngnut

“Circular Firing Squad”.


71 posted on 08/06/2013 9:03:29 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.i)
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To: Trailerpark Badass; dragnet2
My family would get out of the way.

Are they Super Heroes?

72 posted on 08/06/2013 9:06:26 AM PDT by Half Vast Conspiracy (People in America are still tried in the courts rather than by left-wing protesters or by the media.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I guess the alternative is to let criminals know cops won't chase them if they start driving a little crazy.

So if your family is mowed down in a crosswalk by some cop moving at 85mph, while chasing a 19 year old idiot for stealing a beer, it's OK by you?

My family would get out of the way.

lol...And if the stupid 19 year old rear ended them at 85mph due to being chased for that stolen beer, killing them all....Would ya be A-OK with that?

I'd bet the rent you'd be singing quite a different tune...

73 posted on 08/06/2013 9:06:52 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

******MUST READ *******if you want to be informed.

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Files/Briefing-Room/News-Releases/Cleveland-Officer-Involved-Shooting-Investigation/General-Reports/Prosecutor-s-Summary-2-4-2013.aspx


74 posted on 08/06/2013 9:07:26 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman
At approximately 10:26 PM, Jordan radioed his dis patch center requesting the Ohio license plate “FSA3495” (Timothy Russell’s vehicle) be run only for “info ,” stating the vehicle was parked at East 22 nd and Lakeside. Dispatch advised Jordan that it checked “clean ,” providing the year, make and color of t he vehicle, along with name and city of the registered owner and expiration date of the registration. Officer Jordan claimed to have initiated a traffic stop of the subject vehicle on East 18 th Street, between Rockwell and Superior, after observing a turn signal violation.

wow....

75 posted on 08/06/2013 9:13:22 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Responsibility2nd

But after the chase ended in a gunfight near Heritage Middle School, police checked the car and realized neither Williams nor Russell was armed.

How can an intelligent person write this sentence?
No the chase did not end in a gunfight. It ended in an execution!
The victims may have been scumbags but clearly not a single officer involved in this should ever be allowed to carry a weapon around human beings again......


76 posted on 08/06/2013 9:19:49 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: dragnet2
Yeah, I'd blame the 19 year-old.

Is that confusing?

77 posted on 08/06/2013 9:24:15 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: faucetman

They all went totally hysterical after hearing a noise as the suspect vehicle drove by, thinking they were being shot at....wow..


78 posted on 08/06/2013 9:25:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

These cops definitely some range time. Of course, now we know why the government needs eight zillion rounds.


79 posted on 08/06/2013 9:25:17 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
Maybe.

There's at least as much chance of that as there is of them getting mowed down in a crosswalk by a 19 year-old beer thief being chased by the cops.

80 posted on 08/06/2013 9:25:35 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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