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Cleveland Police Disciplining 75 Cops After An Unarmed Couple Was Shot At 137 Times
Business Insider ^ | 08/02/2013 | Pamela Engel

Posted on 08/06/2013 7:37:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd; mickie
The cops were trying to emulate the dramatic Bonnie and Clyde death scene....except Clyde was armed with two Brownings.

Autopsy showed each of the two was shot in excess of 40 times by cops firing into their car. This doesn't count all the bullets fired into the car body itself plus those slugs that went all over the place.

Leni

21 posted on 08/06/2013 7:59:18 AM PDT by MinuteGal (West-Central Florida Get-Together Brunch - Next Sat. Freepmail me @ "MinuteGal")
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To: Reeses

That was back when the “sheet metal” had some thickness too...


22 posted on 08/06/2013 7:59:50 AM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Venturer
I guess the alternative is to let criminals know cops won't chase them if they start driving a little crazy.

That should help.

23 posted on 08/06/2013 8:00:05 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Nothing? Most (sane) people would agree that running from the cops just doesn’t end well.”

Was their fleeing endangering anyone? More so than the cops slinging all that lead around?


24 posted on 08/06/2013 8:00:41 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I cannot either but one thing is certain, if approached by the cops today on the road as most of them are trigger happy plus over armed with military weapons, one would be smart to stop, don’t resist and hope you will be on your way with a minimum of violence on your person.

Mouth off, start quoting the Constitution, or touching one of these storm troopers will result in a you lose situation with the only parameter being by how much. IMO of course.


25 posted on 08/06/2013 8:00:52 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Cleveland’s remake of Bonnie and Clyde


26 posted on 08/06/2013 8:01:07 AM PDT by shadeaud (Stay Thirsty My Friends)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Maybe not. But if cops will overreact here, when and who else will be the victim of their next cluster !%@#.

Remember the 3 innocent victims in the Dorner hunt.


27 posted on 08/06/2013 8:01:11 AM PDT by LevinFan
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To: Responsibility2nd
Fast and Furious meets Bonnie and Clyde in The Gauntlet.

I wonder why they stopped shooting.

28 posted on 08/06/2013 8:01:16 AM PDT by GBA (Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Another Cleveland story ,Oh goodie


29 posted on 08/06/2013 8:04:02 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: Responsibility2nd
The officers being disciplined for violating police protocol won't lose their jobs and did not partake in the gunfight at the end of the chase, but they did have a role in the pursuit. More than 100 police officers were involved in the chase in some way.

Nineteen of the 75 officers facing discipline for offenses ranging from engaging in a chase without permission to providing false information on police reports will have disciplinary hearings and might be suspended temporarily, according to The Plain Dealer.

In 2011, the newspaper published an investigation of reports of excessive use of nondeadly force by Cleveland police officers. The newspaper found that the police chief often overlooked inconsistencies with police officers' stories when investigating use of force incidents.

Many of the officers faced accusations of brutality on the force.

And there you have the problem, consistent irresponsible, undisciplined, unprofessional, conduct enabled by obstruction of justice and perjury, systemic and tolerated in the police department.

30 posted on 08/06/2013 8:09:38 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: PLMerite

Was their fleeing endangering anyone? More so than the cops slinging all that lead around?

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Yes. Anyone and everyone else on the road that night.

Second question irrelevant. No innocent people were harmed. Either by a drunk and stoned driver, or the cops who stopped him.


31 posted on 08/06/2013 8:10:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Navy Patriot

0bama death panel.


32 posted on 08/06/2013 8:10:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: GBA
I wonder why they stopped shooting.

They ran out of ammo?

33 posted on 08/06/2013 8:11:01 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Mouton
will result in a you lose situation

Yep. Right or wrong, the time to argue your point is decidedly not with a heavily armed man at the side of the road.

There are always ways to rectify situations. Treating situations with police officers as a professional contact (which it is, be respectful but not deferential) and not immediately escalating (unless there's no other choice) makes taking care of any problems a whole lot easier.

34 posted on 08/06/2013 8:12:00 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Responsibility2nd

NOTHING! Running from a cop is not a capitol offense.


35 posted on 08/06/2013 8:12:18 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Responsibility2nd

Everyone of them should be charged with 2nd degree murder.


36 posted on 08/06/2013 8:12:46 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: lonevoice

ping!


37 posted on 08/06/2013 8:13:47 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“Were they killed?”
dead.


38 posted on 08/06/2013 8:13:52 AM PDT by Tupelo (The Government lies, then the media lies to cover up the government lies.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

There are many other alternatives beside your sarcastic one.

Limit the cars engaged in a chase.
Do not chase at high speed unless the crime is a felony, Get close get the tag , get them next day. If they claim they weren’t driving take the car. It was guilty.

Use common sense before busting a cap do not let emotions run off with you.

They do not chase crotch rockets because they know they cannot catch them and might kill the rider, Car chases should be much the same.

Break off the chase when civilians may die because of it.
Drive your police car as though you might want to live through the chase.


39 posted on 08/06/2013 8:16:12 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Second question irrelevant. No innocent people were harmed.

Bull****. By that 'logic' then they didn't endanger anyone by running because no one was killed by their driving. Your double standard in covering for trigger happy cops is transparent. At the time of the shooting they were STOPPED in a parking lot. Therefor the shots, which endangered anyone within a mile, where totally unnecessary. The chase was already over.
40 posted on 08/06/2013 8:16:28 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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