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Marine commander (Col George Bristol) says no stand-down order in Benghazi attack
UPI.com ^
| Jul 31, 2013
| UPI
Posted on 07/31/2013 6:53:04 PM PDT by xzins
A Marine operations commander told lawmakers Wednesday he gave troops in Libya permission to respond to a September 2012 attack on a U.S. mission in Tripoli.
Testifying in closed session before the House Armed Services Committee, Col. George Bristol contradicted claims by some congressional Republicans he had issued a stand-down order following the attack, in which U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stephens and three other Americans were killed, The Hill reported.
Bristol, who commanded Joint Special Operations Task Force-Trans Sahara at the time of the attack, said he gave the Tripoli security team leader, Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson, permission to act freely in response to the attack, The Hill said, citing a description it had received of the committee's members-only briefing.
Gibson told Congress last month he was ordered not to send his team to Benghazi because they were needed in Tripoli in the event of an attack on the U.S. Embassy.
Republicans argue the United States wasn't prepared to respond adequately to the Benghazi attack.
They accuse the Obama administration of downplaying or covering up the administration's handling of the attack, its lead-up and aftermath during the heat of the 2012 presidential campaign.
"Colonel Bristol has experience that could be valuable in deepening our understanding of the events of that day," a committee source told The Hill.
"Of particular interest to the committee is what our posture was in the weeks and months that preceded the attack," the source said.
Bristol, a seasoned combat commander, stepped down from his task force commander post in March.
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KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; colbristol; fastandfurious; georgebristol; impeachnow; irs; obamasfault; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; quidproquo; standdown; zerogoesunderthebus
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To: Red Steel
The Col says he told the LTC he could launch if he wanted to. The LTC says he was told not to launch for any reason.
That definitely is a contradiction.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:10:29 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzins
Sad reality: Liberals have so corrupted the armed forces that we can no longer trust them either. And it really upsets the hell out of me to say it but someone must.
Many good men and women are leaving it for that reason. Which is according to the liberal plan.
To: xzins
Shameful Military Officers serving a shameful POTUS. Cowards all of them.
This country has not lost an Ambassador since Carter. Well done Obama! Well done US Military!
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:10:49 PM PDT
by
Chgogal
(Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
To: xzins
I don’t care if this makes anyone mad, but from what I’ve seen in the last few years the military is doing it better than any other corrupt union out there. They are making the SEIU look like pikers.
To: xzins
I am embarrassed that he is a Marine and so obviously let down his brothers-in-arms. I hope that sword he fell on cut to the bone.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:13:21 PM PDT
by
originalbuckeye
(Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
To: null and void
If I were CIC, my FIRST action would be to send something REALLY loud, FAST and frightening to do a low dip over the compound.. This would probably scatter over half the attackers which would buy some time for our troop movement. The point is, 0bama didn’t even do this. He didn’t even ask the Libyan government permission to enter their airspace. Just this alone is unforgivable.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:14:43 PM PDT
by
Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
(If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
To: xzins
A Marine Colonel giving a direct subordinate “permission” to do something.Hell,I rose to the lofty rank of SP5 in the Army but I’ve always believed that an O-6 of *any* branch...particularly the Marines...gave *orders*,not “permission”.
To: originalbuckeye; usafrjag; P-Marlowe
IF Bristol is believed, then LTC Gibson is in legal jeopardy for having his superior officer apparently testify that Gibson misrepresented the truth.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:16:09 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: bigheadfred
You’ll not make me mad. I know about Evan.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:17:52 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzins
"When you're a REALLY professional Marine, that's where they lean on you in private to lie about something REALLY important, and then you go out before the American public and you lie as you were asked to. The unaided SEALS on the roof bleed out and die, and then I back up those who permitted that. THAT is the essence of being a really professional Marine..." --Colonel Bristol, USMC
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:18:09 PM PDT
by
gaijin
To: Gay State Conservative
Exactly! If a Marine General “gives permission to act freely in response to the attack”, I would expect a whole world of whopA$$ to be unleashed.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:20:10 PM PDT
by
Delta 21
(Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
To: jazusamo
way more than one
Yep. From POTUS on down.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:20:24 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: Diogenesis
or, the undocumented, unaccountable,
foreign born, pRes_ _ent, who was busy sleeping off the effects of a 7-gram rock he ingested the day before
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:20:53 PM PDT
by
digger48
To: gaijin
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:21:07 PM PDT
by
xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
To: xzins
And he is doing great. Hit the door running.
To: xzins
Doing the bidding of the Bowbama Regime! What a shame...
To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
Agreed. A single mach1+ pass at a couple hundred feet would break the back of any civilian riot and severely cripple even a determined military assault, limiting it to only visual communications, and that only among people whose sense of balance wasn’t obliterated along with with their hearing.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:23:15 PM PDT
by
null and void
(You don't know what "cutting edge" means till you insult Mohammed.)
To: xzins; Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
When I think of my late father’s duty as a US Marine in 3 wars, when I think of the men in the Chosin Reservoir Campaign, and then I watch this charade, truthfully it nearly brings tears to my eyes.
It would break my father’s heart to see what has become of the USMC.
When my daughter was young, a preteen, I told her that personal honor and loyalty were qualities that without, no person has any worth. A ditch digger with honor and loyalty is worth more than 10 Presidents or Generals without.
For all the times my father and I clashed as I grew up, for all the things we disagreed about over the years, I never doubted that he would gladly storm the gates of Hell for his comrades and his family. Damn few of those left.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:23:21 PM PDT
by
ChildOfThe60s
(If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
To: xzins
Military Scramble Order Overseas, How They Work First, I've got over 26 years working in military control towers, most of them as the watch supervisor/crew chief on duty.
Scrambling aircraft to respond to urgent situations normally starts at the
North American Aerospace Defense Command.
The scramble order comes down through a secured phone call on a direct line.
In the attack on the U.S. embassy on Benghazi, the drone control would have been from
MacDill AFB, FL, by
U.S. Central Command, and would have been in direct contact, or maybe even remote control to the situation room in the White House.
Watch this 4 minute 48 second video
Inside the Situation Room.
The pResident SHOULD HAVE issued to order to scramble fighters to Benghazi, to get there in minimum time.
Then he SHOULD HAVE issued a second order scrambling AC-130 gunships to respond to Benghazi, and have them stand by for more orders.
This should have been controlled by the pResident, who should have monitored and responded with guidance from
his Situation Room,
staffed by men and women from the Department of Homeland Security, the intelligence community, and the military,
all of whom are committed to ensuring that the President of the United States is provided all the information and intelligence he needs to do his job.
Read
Here's one more piece of information.
WHO GAVE THE STAND DOWN ORDER?
That is THE QUESTION,
and if you know anything about government security and government intelligence,you know that the ONLY person that has that authority is OBAMA!
Hillary is there to divert attention FROM THAT QUESTION.
Like
Rush said:
" I'll tell you what happened today was, what I call, what others call, the ruling class, the political elite SAW a vulnerability.
Any time a ranking member of the government who is already in the protected class, which is the Democrat Party, is in the cross-hairs,
they're gonna circle the wagons and protect that person because they're protecting themselves.
And they're protecting the institution of the government, in this case the State Department.
They are not gonna permit a black eye.
The purpose of this, not only to cleanse Hillary and her record and setting up her future,
but this was about cleansing the oversight people and cleansing everybody in Congress,from the Senate or whatever that was supposed to make sure this kind of stuff didn't happen and held people accountable,
that didn't happen.
This was circle the wagons time and put on a dog and pony showto MAKE THE PEOPLE THINK it's been dealt with. "
Now we know that
Obama was in the room watching Benghazi attack live.
I know from experience in the government (over 30 years) that the communication system allows for IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION to the SITUATION ROOM,
as well as other agencies, of notification of a critical situation such as this.
I'm sure technology has changed and only gotten better since I retired, but read
this with focus on
FLASH OVERRIDE and
FLASH.
The U.S. military also used the letters, relabeled, in their now defunct Autovon phone system.[3] Here they were used before dialing the phone in order to give some calls priority, cutting in over existing calls if need be. The idea was to allow important traffic to get through every time. The levels of priority available were Flash Override (A), Flash (B), Immediate (C), and Priority (D), with Flash Override being the highest priority. Pressing one of these keys gave your call priority, overriding other conversations on the network. Pressing C, Immediate, before dialing would make the switch first look for any free lines, and if all lines were in use, it would disconnect any non-priority calls, and then any priority calls. Flash Override will kick every other call off the trunks between the origin and destination. Consequently, it was limited to the White House Communications Agency. Precedence dialing is still done on the military phone networks, but using number combinations (Example: Entering 93 before a number is a priority call) rather than the separate tones and the Government Emergency Telecommunications Service has superseded Autovon for any civilian priority telco access.
Present-day uses of the A, B, C and D keys on telephone networks are few, and exclusive to network control. For example, the A key is used on some networks to cycle through different carriers at will (thereby listening in on calls). Their use is probably prohibited by most carriers. The A, B, C and D tones are used in radio phone patch and repeater operations to allow, among other uses, control of the repeater while connected to an active phone line.
The *, #, A, B, C and D keys are still widely used worldwide by Amateur radio operators for repeater control, remote-base operations and VOIP-based communications systems.
DTMF tones are also used by some cable television networks and radio networks to signal the local cable company/network station to insert a local advertisement or station identification. These tones were often heard during a station ID preceding a local ad insert. Previously, terrestrial television stations also used DTMF tones to shut off and turn on remote transmitters.
DTMF signaling tones can also be heard at the start or end of some VHS (Video Home System) cassette tapes. Information on the master version of the video tape is encoded in the DTMF tone. The encoded tone provides information to automatic duplication machines, such as format, duration and volume levels, in order to replicate the original video as closely as possible.
DTMF tones are sometimes used in caller ID systems to transfer the caller ID information, however in the USA only Bell 202 modulated FSK signaling is used to transfer the data.
There is more you need to read.
Read
post #48 of ""Under God" Removed By Obama During Inaguration Pledge" and know that
we were warned of this.
This has been
planned for a VERY LONG TIME.
Obama is solely responsible for this.
Hillary claimed No Knowledge of gun running
and told Rand Paul he needed to ask the CIA.
Let's look at some of the facts.
Obama Arranged Benghazi Trip That Resulted In Murder Of US AMB Chris Stevens
Arms Flow to Syria May Be Behind Benghazi Cover-Up states: " During the 2011 Libyan revolt against Muammar Qaddafi, reckless U.S. policy flung American forces and money into the conflict on the side of the rebels, who were known at the time to include Al Qaeda elements. Previously the number two official at the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli, Christopher Stevens was named as the official U.S. liaison to the Libyan opposition in March, 2011.
Stevens was tasked with helping to coordinate U.S. assistance to the rebels, whose top military commander, Abdelhakim Belhadj, was the leader of the Al Qaeda affiliate, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG). That means that Stevens was authorized by the U.S. Department of State and the Obama administration to aid and abet individuals and groups that were, at a minimum, allied ideologically with Al Qaeda, the jihadist terrorist organization that attacked the homeland on the first 9/11, the one thats not supposed to exist anymore after the killing of its leader, Osama bin Laden, on May 2, 2011. "
Obama the arms broker to al-Qaeda states [this article is also well worth your time] : " Now we learn that Ambassador Chris Stevens’s mission in Benghazi on that fatal day was to organize the shipment of arms to the rebel militias in Syria.
And that means: the shipment of arms, by order of the President of the United States, to al-Qaeda,the terrorist organization which the President himself constantly declares to be the enemy of his country.
No wonder President Obama, Ambassador to the UN Susan Rice, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and the rest of the stoats and weasels have been lying their heads off and trying to put the blame for the whole hideous and tragic episode – for what amounts to an act of war – on somebody’s little video. Scraping the bottom of the excuses-barrel.
The evidence suggests that the Obama administration has not simply been engaging, legitimating, enriching and emboldening Islamists who have now taken over or are ascendant in much of the Middle East.
Starting in March 2011, when American diplomat Christopher Stevens was designated the liaison to the “opposition” in Libya, the Obama administration has been arming them, including jihadists like Abdelhakim Belhadj, the leader of the al Qaeda franchise known as the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group. "
SOURCES: SLAIN U.S. AMBASSADOR RECRUITED JIHADISTS
Egyptian officials say Stevens worked with Saudis against Assad
Was Syrian weapons shipment factor in ambassadors Benghazi visit? states: " Libyan-flagged vessel Al Entisar, which means "The Victory," was received in the Turkish port of Iskenderun -- 35 miles from the Syrian border -- on Sept. 6, just five days before Ambassador Chris Stevens, information management officer Sean Smith and former Navy Seals Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed
On the night of Sept. 11, in what would become his last known public meeting, Stevens met with the Turkish Consul General Ali Sait Akin, and escorted him out of the consulate front gate one hour before the assault began at approximately 9:35 p.m. local time.
the timing and the meeting between the Turkish diplomat and Stevens was "unusual."
According to an initial Sept. 14 report by the Times of London, Al Entisar was carrying 400 tons of cargo.
The cargo reportedly included surface-to-air anti-aircraft missiles, RPG's and Russian-designed shoulder-launched missiles known as MANPADS.
It was reported there was a fight about the weapons and who got what "between the free Syrian Army and the Muslim Brotherhood."
' The point is that both of these weapons systems are extremely accurate and very simple to use,' Fox News military analyst Col. David Hunt explained. He said the passage of weapons from Libya to Syria would escalate the conflict. ' With a short amount of instruction, you've got somebody capable of taking down any, any aircraft. Anywhere in the world. '
"
Rebel Arms Flow Is Said to Benefit Jihadists in Syria by New York Times
Why Libya Cover-Up: Obama Was Arming Al Qaeda & Islamists
Libya's missing weapons being smuggled into Gaza
Israeli intelligence is increasingly concerned about the quantity of Libyan arms flowing into Gaza.
Clinton asked for more security in Benghazi, Obama said no
How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria (And It Involves Weapons) [Article has many links.]
Ed Klein: Bill Clinton encouraged Hillary to resign in the wake of the Benghazi scandal
Explain this: Ambassador Chris Stevens killed due to lack of security Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett gets Secret Service
Libyan Officials Claim US Was Warned 3 DAYS BEFORE Deadly Benghazi Consulate Attack
More details emerge on U.S. ambassador's last moments from CNN states: " Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.
Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.
He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn't good for international business.
'The situation is frightening, it scares us,' Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.
Mabrouk said it was not the first time he has warned foreigners about the worsening security situation in the face of the growing presence of armed jihadist groups in the Benghazi area. "
Guard at consulate in Libya says attack was coordinated
Egypt intelligence warns of attacks on Israel, US embassies
Blame Obama for Chris Stevens' murder
Backed by Barack Hussein Obama, Muslim Brotherhood gets ready to overthrow U.S.-ally King of Jordan
Obama Bypasses Congress, Gives $1.5 Billion to Muslim Brotherhood
ALDRICH: Hillary Clintons abominable national security record
History of incompetence and dangerous decisions
Obama not subject to charges of treason?
Benghazi: Symbol of Obama's Leadership
Obama Admits He Is A Muslim
So, let us remember.
Muslims are well know for lying about their faith.MUSLIMS are allowed to LIE and deceive NON MUSLIMS, if it benefits or protects ISLAM. Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.
Qur'an (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves."
Qur'an (9:3) - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.
Qur'an (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must "hide his faith" among those who are not believers.
Qur'an (2:225) - "Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts"
Qur'an (66:2) - "Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths"
Qur'an (3:54) - "And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers." The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same. (See also 8:30 and 10:21)
Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be "compelled" to deceive others for a greater purpose.
For a better understanding of the issue, read
HISTORY of Mohammed ( spelled variously; Mahomet, Muhammed, Mehmet, etc. ). then watch William Federer explain it, from Jan. 25, 2012 at CC Chino Hills, CA. It's a MUST WATCH for everyone,Christians, Athiests and even Muslims!
As retired military myself, I've seen the damage of "keeping secrets" about bad leaders.
Obama is EVIL, pure and simple.
Please watch
Glenn Beck with Trevor Loudon & his book "Barack Obama and the Enemies Within".
Then watch the 29 minute 13 seconds video
Trevor Loudon- An Urgent (and chilling) Message for America.
Obama may be
feigning "incompetence," thinking he's too sly, being a "
wolf in sheep's clothing" since his mentoring was from
Fabian Fascism..
Remember:" The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked : who can know it? "
The
"Establishment Republicans" will probably NOT want to IMPEACH the TREASONIST Barack Hussein Obama II.
But it's better for the country that Obama suffer the penalty, the strongest penalty for his actions, and his inactions.
Let's look at the
Presidential Oaths of Office.
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States,
and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Now who among us really believes Obama did any of that ?
To Obama, that was
"Just words. Just speeches! "Damn him ! Damn him to hell !
I'll finish this with asking you to read
Watch the 18 minute 56 second documentary video
"Absolutely Uncertain" at
"theBLAZE.com" or on
YouTube.com, narrated by Irina, the 23-year-old Jewish New Yorker and a former Obama supporter .
One other suggestion, read
DID OBAMA WANT STEVENS DEAD? The language is a little abrasive, but spot on. Also read:
How U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens May Have Been Linked to Jihadist Rebels in Syria(And It Involves Weapons)
October 19, 2012
WASHINGTON, DC – SEPTEMBER 14: Intern Chris Jobson (R) and press assistant Isaiah Calvin (L) of Senate Democratic Media Center sign condolence book for Ambassador J. Christopher Stevens at the U.S. Capitol September 14, 2012 in Washington, DC.
This article by Michael Kelley originally appeared on Business Insider.
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posted on
07/31/2013 7:24:04 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
To: 2banana; xzins
You would think a SOF commander would have more balls...In Ubama's military you are either a homo hugger or you are gone. And if you are a homo hugger, you are a weak and cowardly commander, as well as a selfish political hack. Ergo...
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