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Now Homeschoolers, Private School Kids Have Right to Play on Public School Sports Teams (Ohio)
npr.org ^ | 29 July 2013 | BY MOLLY BLOOM

Posted on 07/29/2013 1:09:32 PM PDT by 11th_VA

Homeschooled and private-school students across Ohio now have the right to play on sports teams and participate in other extracurricular activities thanks to a provision in the new state budget.

Previously, each local school board came up with its own policy on the issue.

Athletic and other extracurricular associations have their own rules about student participation in competitive or inter-scholastic activities. This provisions in the state budget override those rules.

Under the new provisions, public schools must allow private-school students to participate in an extracurricular activity only if their private schools do not offer the same activity.

And both homeschooled and private-school students must meet the same age and grade requirements as district students and pay the same fees, if any are required. The Ohio High School Athletic Association isn’t thrilled about the changes. The changes go against the principles that help sports contribute to positive “educational outcomes,” the association says:

Included among these desirable educational outcomes are the instilment [sic] of the notion of citizenship, loyalty and school spirit, the building of a cohesive student body, the promotion of amateurism by drawing athletes from the school’s population only which, in turn, discourages an overemphasis on sports, avoids “team shopping,” keeps in proper perspective the relationships among student-athletes and coaches and secures role models for other students.

The state budget also allows homeschooled students to fully participate in Ohio’s Post-Secondary Enrollment Options Program. The program allow students to enroll in college courses while in high school for both high-school and college credit. The state pays for the cost of the courses.

The program is already open to private-school students.


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To: svcw

And you’re a welfare queen.


121 posted on 07/30/2013 1:16:25 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog

Last reply:
I take no government hand outs
I pay every tax known to man
I pay my own way

I have read through all your comments on this thread, and you really make no sense, I guess I should have read them before engaging in these replies, it would have saved me a lot of time.


122 posted on 07/30/2013 1:24:40 PM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: svcw

You’re a queen who loves the attention. You couldn’t resist.


123 posted on 07/30/2013 1:31:22 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
The vast majority of homeschoolers wouldn't take advantage of this opportunity. Many homeschool parents voice the same concerns that you do - they worry about involving their children in the public school system in any way.

HOWEVER, as long as there is a public school system and sports teams are connected to it, I myself would not fight against either private school students or homeschooled students being permitted to join public school sports teams. I would not put my own kids onto public school teams, though.

124 posted on 07/30/2013 1:42:38 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

And that’s their choice to make, but I’d better not hear one peep of complaint out of those parents when Big Brother decides to stick it’s nose into their home school lives, even in the most intrusive ways. They also need to be ready to take the slings and arrows from taxpayers when those kids’ participation in sports as a reason to raise taxes.


125 posted on 07/30/2013 1:48:46 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
when Big Brother decides to stick it’s nose into their home school lives, even in the most intrusive ways.

That's exactly the debate that homeschoolers have with each other, whenever this type of issue comes up.

Some homeschoolers say, "But I'm paying a fortune in school taxes. Why not use something at the school?"

Other homeschoolers say, "If you do, then you're inviting the state to intrude in your home school."

On the other hand, in some states, the state already intrudes by dictating what the kids should be taught, requiring the parents to report to the public school system, etc. So, I can understand both sides of the argument.

126 posted on 07/30/2013 1:54:59 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Orangedog
Do try to keep up.

Sorry, I'm a bit slow. I bet you do use the public roads, though... a good point from one of the previous posts.

Do you actually travel on roads? More to the point, do you feel entitled to travel on the public roads?

Because if you do, by your logic that makes you as much a welfare queen as the rest of us. So welcome to the club.

127 posted on 07/31/2013 4:46:50 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

Any other parts of obama’s “you didn’t build that!” speech you would like to paraphrase while trying to make what you’re tryin to pass off as a point?


128 posted on 07/31/2013 5:03:24 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: mmichaels1970
And that's the way it should have stayed. The locals pay the bulk of the taxes and elect to local school board. Now the state is mandating the participation policy.

I say it's a load of bull.

I can't believe all of the advocating of state mandates infringing on the decisions of local communities.

This was first thought when I saw the article, perhaps some/most of these homeschooling advocates are not as conservative as they portray themselves.

129 posted on 07/31/2013 5:18:59 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: metmom
Do you agree, then, that homeschoolers should not be paying school taxes to educate and feed public school kids THEY didn't bring into the world?

I hope you are also willing to include couples and singles that don't have any children.

130 posted on 07/31/2013 5:25:47 AM PDT by verga (A nation divided by Zero!)
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To: Orangedog
Oh, look at you crabwalk now... The way I see it, though, you've got two options. One, you can admit you're a welfare queen just like the rest of us, or two, you can change your definition of 'welfare queen' to the one the rest of us use.

So what's it going to be? You going to declare 'peace,' or do we need to order you up your EBT card?

131 posted on 07/31/2013 9:20:53 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: svcw
I suspect that what you're going to see is a lot of inner-city kids who were playing illegally in suburban schools (let's face it, with their knowledge) will be homeschooled and play for inner city powerhouses. They'll also get more time to work out if they don't have to be in school all day.

So, I'm a cynic. I also see a good side. That would be that kids in public schools will be exposed to the talents and values of the homeschooled.

This came up in the 1990s in MA. The participation of the homeschooled in extracurricular programs was not a problem. In addition to boosting atheletic programs, it was a good thing for music programs.

132 posted on 07/31/2013 9:28:28 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania

Interesting thought.
My understanding is that kids out side the public system still must be at grade level and grade requirements.
May be a moot point anyway, as many schools are dropping sports.


133 posted on 07/31/2013 9:46:01 AM PDT by svcw (Stand or die)
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To: Oberon

Your poor choice of using obama’s argument doesn’t obligate me to take any course of action. You collectivists do tend to get a little bellicose and full of yourselves.


134 posted on 07/31/2013 10:11:08 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
Oh, listen to you... you're probably posting from your government-provided Smartphone while waiting in the checkout line at Wal-Mart.

I'm not suprised that you're not motivated to take action. That's the hallmark of the parasite.

135 posted on 07/31/2013 12:21:07 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon
Wow...project much?

What action do I need to take when I can just wait for all you collectivists to die off? Eventually you'll run out of other peoples' money and resources to be a big man of "the community" with and then I can sit back and watch you all turn on each other.

In the mean time enjoy all the cash and benefits taken from others at gun point and handed to you and yours...while it lasts. The exponential function will deal with your type way more harshly than anyone else can.

136 posted on 07/31/2013 3:30:42 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
In the mean time enjoy all the cash and benefits taken from others at gun point and handed to you and yours...while it lasts.

While they keep paving the road in front of your house, you mean?

137 posted on 07/31/2013 6:27:13 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

Any other parts of Uncle Obama’s speech you want to parrot? You keep going back to his material.


138 posted on 07/31/2013 6:39:02 PM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Orangedog
To interrupt the barb-trading for a moment...

You'd actually have a decent point to make there if you weren't so intent on being offensive about it. We really ought to take a second and third look at the degree to which we want to participate in any collectivist, government-run activity, particularly where our children are involved.

139 posted on 08/01/2013 4:49:05 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

Barb-trading aside, this was offensive way before I chimed in. What is totally offensive is people using their children as pawns and cannon fodder for political leverage. Same goes for the ones using the children of others for the same purposes. If they have that little regard and respect for their kids and the kids of others, don’t go giving me sideways looks for not wanting to be compelled to fund their playtime. Also bear in mind the gun in the room. That makes good, middle class folk uncomfortable to acknowledge. Every law, every tax no matter how minor is enforced and collected at the business end of a gun and government is allowed to kill you if you sufficiently resist enforcement of any of those.


140 posted on 08/01/2013 5:13:10 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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