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Howard Dean Admits Obamacare Includes Death Panels, Wants Them Repealed
Life News ^ | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 07/29/2013 12:39:26 PM PDT by Morgana

When Congress debated Obamacare, pro-life advocates and Republicans like Sarah Palin were castigated for claiming the government-run health care program would include death panels that would ration health care treatment.

Now, former presidential candidate Howard Dean has essentially admitted they were right and is calling for the repeal of the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). In a Wall Street Journal op-ed Monday he called the IPAB “essentially a health-care rationing body” that he believes will fail.

“There does have to be control of costs in our health-care system. However, rate setting — the essential mechanism of the IPAB — has a 40-year track record of failure,” Dean wrote.

Dean, who is a healthcare industry representative as a senior adviser at the law and lobbying firm McKenna Long & Aldridge, said his experience as governor of Vermont turned him off to government control of healthcare prices.

“What ends up happening in these schemes (which many states including my home state of Vermont have implemented with virtually no long-term effect on costs) is that patients and physicians get aggravated because bureaucrats in either the private or public sector are making medical decisions without knowing the patients,” Dean wrote.

“By setting doctor reimbursement rates for Medicare and determining which procedures and drugs will be covered and at what price, the IPAB will be able to stop certain treatments its members do not favor by simply setting rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform them,” Dean added. “Most important, once again, these kinds of schemes do not control costs. The medical system simply becomes more bureaucratic.”

There does have to be control of costs in our health-care system, Mr. Dean writes, but rate setting “has a 40-year track record of failure.”

More on Dean’s article:

Dean writes that in order to have a secure future, the country has to move away from fee-for-service medicine, “which is all about incentives to spend more, and has no incentives in the system to keep patients healthy. The IPAB has no possibility of helping to solve this major problem and will almost certainly make the system more bureaucratic and therefore drive up administrative costs.”

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The IPAB was labeled a “death panel” by Republicans in the run-up to the 2010 midterm elections; among its most prominent critics was former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

On the campaign trail last year, Rep. Paul Ryan, the GOP’s vice presidential nominee, said that with the board, Mr. Obama “puts a board of 15 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in charge of Medicare, who are required to cut Medicare in ways that will lead to denied care for current seniors.”

PolitiFact rated the claim “mostly false,” but Mr. Dean has provided some high-profile bipartisan opposition to the board.

“The IPAB will cause frustration to providers and patients alike, and it will fail to control costs,” Mr. Dean wrote. “When, and if, the atmosphere on Capitol Hill improves and leadership becomes interested again in addressing real problems instead of posturing, getting rid of the IPAB is something Democrats and Republicans ought to agree on.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; bhohealthcare; buyersremorse; dean; deathpanel; deathpanels; howarddean; ipab; obamacare; palin; palinsarahpalin; prolife; sarahpalin; socializedmedicine; zerocare
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To: LucyT

41 posted on 07/29/2013 2:24:02 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Morgana
“Dean writes that in order to have a secure future, the country has to move away from fee-for-service medicine, “which is all about incentives to spend more, and has no incentives in the system to keep patients healthy.”

Haven't read through all the posts to see if this point was already made, but what Dean doesn't consider is the incentive of the patients. In a health care system in which individual patients share some degree of financial risk for not taking care of their own health, there is an incentive for more healthy behaviors. If patients share some financial burden for resources used, they will be motivated to avoid having to use those resources.

If, on the other hand, everything is ‘free’, and provided by the government (i.e. our taxes), there is no incentive to do anything other than show up when you're sick.

42 posted on 07/29/2013 2:28:07 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: LucyT

Of course she is.


43 posted on 07/29/2013 2:33:48 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead
AuschwitzCare, ya think?

Good one ExTexas

44 posted on 07/29/2013 2:37:07 PM PDT by GOPJ (Sob stories should not be running public policy...)
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To: null and void

and the Howard Dean scream seems appropriate here.


45 posted on 07/29/2013 2:38:22 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Jill [Biden] has a D.Ed.”

Oy, it’s worse than I thought.

Thanks for the correction. I’ll be sure to reference her credentials properly henceforth and in perpetuity.


46 posted on 07/29/2013 2:57:52 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Morgana; All
If you don't vote for Democrats and give them money, you will NOT GET THE HEALTH CARE THAT A DEMOCRAT WILL GET....PERIOD!!!!!

Geesh....this isn't even a wild stab.....this is INEVITABLE!!!

To all you STUPID people that voted for Obama......you will be alive a LOT LONGER than we will, but your LIFE WILL SUCK!!!

47 posted on 07/29/2013 3:06:00 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ExTexasRedhead; Morgana

Death-we-don’t-care ..................................................................... FRegards


48 posted on 07/29/2013 4:06:53 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Morgana.


49 posted on 07/29/2013 4:10:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: C210N
"Dean is opposed to IPAB on medical grounds."

Still, he unwittingly finds himself squarely in the free market argument, simply based on the logic of medical ethics.

I suspect he'd go into instant spin mode if found out.

50 posted on 07/29/2013 5:36:16 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it)
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To: jocon307
Although I’m not seeing it mentioned here Howard Dean is a doctor.

Not just any old doctor. Howard Dean was a Planned Parenthood doctor.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1047435/posts

51 posted on 07/29/2013 6:22:43 PM PDT by Hoodat (BENGHAZI - 4 KILLED, 2 MIA)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Are you going to tell me they’re not both addressed as “Doctor”?


52 posted on 07/29/2013 8:09:13 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

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53 posted on 07/29/2013 8:10:34 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Are you going to tell me they’re not both addressed as “Doctor”?

Non sequitur.

54 posted on 07/29/2013 8:13:12 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

You’re making no sense at all.


55 posted on 07/30/2013 5:58:04 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Hoodat

I think I knew that at one point.


56 posted on 07/30/2013 3:46:24 PM PDT by jocon307
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For Those Interested in the subject of Obamacare — Ongoing updates here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2308266/posts

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Posted on August 4, 2009 3:45:39 PM PDT by Cindy


57 posted on 07/31/2013 4:02:38 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Morgana
but but but...
58 posted on 07/31/2013 12:05:02 PM PDT by Homer1
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Surprise, surprise. Although it's hard to believe he didn't know it before. He just realized that a LOT of the American people hate 0thugga's Hellthcare and that doesn't make him look good. Self serving and criminally insane, like all Dems and a goodly portion of Rs.

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59 posted on 08/01/2013 11:21:08 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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