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WSJ: Rise of the Warrior Cop
Wall Street Journal ^ | July 19, 2013 | RADLEY BALKO

Posted on 07/21/2013 2:13:25 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3

On Jan. 4 of last year, a local narcotics strike force conducted a raid on the Ogden, Utah, home of Matthew David Stewart at 8:40 p.m. The 12 officers were acting on a tip from Mr. Stewart's former girlfriend, who said that he was growing marijuana in his basement. Mr. Stewart awoke, naked, to the sound of a battering ram taking down his door. Thinking that he was being invaded by criminals, as he later claimed, he grabbed his 9-millimeter Beretta pistol.

(I don't know is we can copy and paste from WSJ, so I just copied the first paragraph since there does not appear to be much IP in it.)

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: military; police; swat; warriorcops
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To: mosaicwolf

It’s back in print. Johnross.com or something like that.


21 posted on 07/21/2013 3:00:32 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: agondonter

That’s probably the original hard cover edition, now out of print. Go to accuratepress.com to buy the new soft cover edition for $30 plus s&h.


22 posted on 07/21/2013 3:05:59 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Informational brochure on interacting with government agents:
Stop, Drop, and Cower
[Direct Link]
23 posted on 07/21/2013 3:06:09 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: mosaicwolf

John-ross.net ... Has a cool custom handgun too!


24 posted on 07/21/2013 3:11:08 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: ronnietherocket3
How about adding mandatory police drug testing to the list of solutions. Get the ’roids out of Law Enforcement.
25 posted on 07/21/2013 3:25:28 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig
In the late 80’s and nineties cops were getting killed using patrol officer tactics to address incidents where people were armed heavily or the their history showed them to have a propensity to fight with or shoot at the police.

I don't see the trend that you are talking about: Year-by-Year Breakdown of Law Enforcement Deaths throughout U.S. History. There was a spike in the 30s, presumably due to Prohibition. And another spike in the 70s and early 80s, presumably due to the breakdown in law and order in big cities that were governed by liberals. But there definitely was no spike in the late 80s or 90s and the number of yearly LEO deaths seems to have been fairly stable since the 1980s even though the population has increased from 227 million in 1980 to 314 million in 2012.

26 posted on 07/21/2013 3:27:36 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: nascarnation
it's coming...
27 posted on 07/21/2013 3:35:00 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: mosaicwolf
Read "Unintended Consequences" by John Ross. Great book with similar scenario. Good luck finding a copy.

It's on the net in PDF form here:

Great White Desert

28 posted on 07/21/2013 3:35:48 PM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: ronnietherocket3
chat with younger cops today, you will often encounter some version of the phrase, "Whatever I need to do to get home safe." ...

THEN GO SELL LIFE INSURANCE, PUZZZIE!

The PA State Bulls I knew when I was a kid, (and because dad and uncle's repair shop was an authorized cruiser repair shop, we knew MANY of the guys at the local barracks) were REAL MEN. They didn't brag, they didn't bully, they didn't use obscenities or shout in your face.

They didn't NEED to.

They were quiet, cool and very professional. And you KNEW in your heart, messing with them might be a fatal mistake. And they did all that with a smile.

Most professional people I have ever known.

Now, they are just Rambo Wannabees.

29 posted on 07/21/2013 3:49:26 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslymz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

Good article! I disagree that it can’t be stopped or turned around. Like the author said, stopping the federal grants is a good start. Cities, counties and states can pass laws and criteria to stop most of the nonsense. People need to talk to their local politicians, communicate through local papers, local radio and television. The militarization of our police forces can be stopped.


30 posted on 07/21/2013 4:14:11 PM PDT by pallis
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To: maine-iac7
I hope the POS ex-girlfriend has enough conscience to bother her for the rest of her life -

Oh, please. Don't be so naive. She wanted what happened to happen.

On a broader note, there is little point is speaking of "conscience" today. We have produced (deliberately IMO) a generation of sociopaths. A generation without a conscience.

31 posted on 07/21/2013 4:42:37 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: mosaicwolf

I understand it is available as a PDF download.


32 posted on 07/21/2013 5:53:57 PM PDT by T Wayne (If you know how many guns you have, you don't have enough!!!)
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To: ronnietherocket3
"Warrior Cop?"

LOL! Then doughnuts and television are the answer to bodybuilding, and comfort is the way for fire-and-maneuver. Civilians are so funny.


33 posted on 07/21/2013 6:14:38 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

And don’t forget the latest in tacticool fashions. Those’ll make a warrior. ;-)


34 posted on 07/21/2013 6:19:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: ronnietherocket3

I fired off a letter to WSJ right after I read the article yesterday:

Dear Sirs: Why don’t we just subject our SWAT Teams to the same ROE (Rules of Engagement) that shackle our military? Surely American citizens deserve the same consideration we give the Taliban.


35 posted on 07/21/2013 6:21:15 PM PDT by Wife of D28Man
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To: DoughtyOne

There is another (possible but unlikely) reason, which is that by wearing a ski mask they are protected from small debris like splinters. Though it would be completely unnecessary if they waited until the person was out of their house to arrest them.


36 posted on 07/21/2013 6:47:35 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3
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To: ronnietherocket3

bfl


37 posted on 07/21/2013 7:02:46 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: maine-iac7
I hope the POS ex-girlfriend has enough conscience to bother her for the rest of her life -

My thoughts as well... though I doubt it. 4% of the population, yes, 1 in 25 are clinical sociopaths.

Still, this is a good case of "Don't let your dick run your life"

38 posted on 07/21/2013 7:23:25 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: ronnietherocket3

I wouldn’t think those masks would stop much, but at least it is a plausible reason.


39 posted on 07/22/2013 10:59:10 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Zimmerman breaks Martin's nose/pounds his head on concrete? Does Martin's backers support Zimmerman?)
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To: vbmoneyspender

it wasn’t more cops being killed....it was the manner in which they were dying.

The training is always a reflection of past experience.

Tactical training came in due to the high risk search warrants which were being served.

As an example of this...in the later 90’s cops who had been taught weapon retention...techniques to keep your gun in your holster in a fight.

The results were that officers were spending all their energy holding their holster and began being beaten unconscious then having their gun taken and then being executed.

The answer to that was training to be more aggressive and direct physically (demeanor and handling) upon initial contact with a non compliant suspect. This creates a situation where the suspect will either submit and follow orders or if they don’t, the officer is prepared for the ensuing physical fight.

Now you are seeing more complaints about rudeness and excessive force when the officers are speaking and physically acting how they are taught.

Officers being killed with their own guns is way down.

The push back is that they are trying to alter the training in reaction to the perceived problems rudeness and excessive force...and take out the aggressiveness which makes officers safer...so in about 12-15 years you will see a spike in officer deaths from being beaten to death or having their own gun taken away.

5-7 years ago there was a spike in deaths of officers from traffic collisions...driving deaths...no you see a response by police agencies in their driving training, eliminating pursuits, and giving discipline for collisions that they feel are preventable.

The truth is there is no perfect policeman or perfect way to do policing.....we just have, each of us, an ideal idea of perfection in our head that can’t be matched in the real world because humans are not perfect.


40 posted on 07/22/2013 11:07:55 AM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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