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Hand guns are outlawed in Britain. But rifles are not. However, courts have made it illegal for a home owner to use a rifle against criminals who break into his house. In 1999, a British farmer, Tony Martin, was sentenced to 3 years in prison for defending himself from three violent criminals who had invaded his home. Mr. Martin shot one criminal dead with his shotgun. The dead criminal was a violent ex-convict, who had previously been arrested 29 times for numerous crimes, including assaulting a police officer.

Read Mr. Martin's tragic story: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_%28farmer%29

1 posted on 07/17/2013 8:27:30 AM PDT by pinochet
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Liberals would love to disarm the law abiding (they know they can’t disarm the criminals) so that we become more dependent on government.


2 posted on 07/17/2013 8:32:27 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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This was neither clever, nor tricky.

The Left will always try to take guns away. This particular situation is just today’s convenient excuse.


3 posted on 07/17/2013 8:34:53 AM PDT by Noamie
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” it is easy for sneaky liberals to interpret the second amendment as giving Americans the right to own arms”

Well, not surprisingly, Liberals would be wrong from the start.

The 2A does not GIVE any rights, It affirms rights we are given by God.

The Amendments LIMIT govt. Not the people.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 8:35:24 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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I doubt that liberals set up the trial with a plan in place to lose the case and attack the second amendment. But I wouldn't put it past them to take the outcome and use it to further their ends in any way possible.
5 posted on 07/17/2013 8:37:10 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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In Britain your semi auto rifle(AR 15 ) has to be set like a bolt action ,cock after every shot


6 posted on 07/17/2013 8:38:30 AM PDT by molson209
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Men do not have the standing to abolish rights given by God.

Even if they tear up the paper and burn the shreds, the right still exists and will be exercised by me.


7 posted on 07/17/2013 8:39:53 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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The Zimmerman trial was SUPPOSED to do that, but it didn’t work out according to the script

Even firing the head of the investigation, who refused to file charges, and falsifying affidavits to skip the grand jury, Obam and holder spending $5million for ‘protests’, and hiding evidence from the defense didn’t work


9 posted on 07/17/2013 8:45:39 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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The Newtown school shooting was a much better opportunity, and not even that worked.

They will never stop seizing ANY opportunity, but I think this was a bad one. It’s all about race, not guns, and I think for the most part it has backfired on them. It stirred up the usual race baiters and Occupiers, but they don’t need stirring up anyway.


10 posted on 07/17/2013 8:46:38 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Not clever, but repeal 2nd yes.


11 posted on 07/17/2013 8:46:55 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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IIRC, the People’s Democratic Republic of Massachusetts has a law specifically stating that everybody has a “duty to retreat” and surrender their property to an intruder. Only if they can no longer retreat can residents of that state use lethal force to defend themselves.


12 posted on 07/17/2013 8:47:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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Trick? Yes! Clever? No. Nor Unique

and even Jesse Jackson knows where the core of the CRIME problem is!




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13 posted on 07/17/2013 8:47:52 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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Repeal of the 2nd will result in a civil war so great that there will be no Washington DC. It will be a level patch of crushed cement. My advice to those nitwits trying to repeal duck, your butt will be body bag material.
14 posted on 07/17/2013 8:48:16 AM PDT by Logical me
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You need to go back to you Doctor and have your meds’ dosage checked.


16 posted on 07/17/2013 8:50:47 AM PDT by harpu ( "...it's better to be hated for who you are than loved for someone you're not!")
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I don’t think they have the ability to repeal the 2A, but they never let a good crisis go to waste.


17 posted on 07/17/2013 8:51:36 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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It's obvious from the beginning that this was one of Ubama's "under the radar" gun control initiatives, as evidence byt the DOJ sending community agitators to Sanford to soften things up.

18 posted on 07/17/2013 8:53:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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I don’t think the trial was aimed at the second amendment, but I believe the Justice Department is currently trying to figure out how to make defending yourself with a gun and civil rights violation. I believe they are probably going to try to get a ruling that will elevate the use of a firearm to a very high level of force. I think they want to make people scared to use a gun to defend themselves.


19 posted on 07/17/2013 8:54:51 AM PDT by Yogafist
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Gun control is the sole reason for this political circus. It's why the federal mouthpieces keep going on an on about stand your ground law even though it was never considered in the Zimmerman case.

Before stand your ground can be invoked, there has to be a corresponding ability to LEAVE your ground, and Zimmerman never had that option because he was pinned TO the ground, and had no way to retreat from it.

Zimmerman and other cases that may be like it are just stepping stones, and they only have to last long enough to get one step closer to their goal...the eradication of private firearms.

Just my 2 cents.

21 posted on 07/17/2013 8:55:26 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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No it's not!

What do liberals think the word "Bear" means?

-PJ

24 posted on 07/17/2013 8:56:59 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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The dead the it’s grandmother: Barras’ grandmother, Mary Dolan, stated: “It’s not fair that the farmer has got all the money and he is the one that took Fred away.”


25 posted on 07/17/2013 8:57:23 AM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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This ain’t britton


26 posted on 07/17/2013 8:57:26 AM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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