Posted on 07/11/2013 1:50:03 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
Russian president Vladimir Putin has passed a draconian law that calls for the arrest of anyone who is openly gay or supportive of gay rights.
Thinking of taking a vacation to Europe this summer? If a trip to iconic city of Moscow or the edgier St. Petersburg is on your bucket list, an anti-gay law recently passed in Russia may have you thinking again. It is now outlawed to be ‘out and proud.’
In a throwback to the country’s authoritarian ruling, Russian president Vladimir Putin has signed a controversial law that punishes people for “homosexual propaganda.” The law fines people—including tourists—up to 200,000 rubles ($6,240 CDN) for “propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations.”
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Well, no. From it’s early beginnings in British common law, the focus ran more to the major categories of unnatural gender or species relationships. For example, in Lord Coke, a famous 17th Century English legal expert, we find this:
"Buggery or Sodomy. Buggery is a detestable and abominable sin, amongst christians not to be named, committed by carnal knowledge against the ordinance of the creator, and order of nature, by mankind with mankind, or with brute beast, or by womankind with brute beast.' 2 Coke's Institutes, Ed.1797, Part III, p. 58"
Note how that definition, while it does not explcitly exclude all possible non-reproductive sexual acts, does focus on *inherently* non-reproductive combinations of partners, not on particular types of sexual technique.
In the US, a famous 1697 Massachusetts law prohibited “buggery,” which, consistent with the earlier definition, had a history of association with "per anum" sex. For example, Nathan Dane, in his work A General Abridgment and Digest of American Law (1824), explains that some element of penetration is required to meet the definition of buggery.
So it seems that while there was some variation in definition early on, the focus was the unnatural pairings, but that over time the statutory definitions were expanded from this fairly narrow beginning to a more all-encompassing meaning later. Therefore I find your assertion that sodomy laws were uniformly all-encompassing and not specifically pertinent to typical homosexual behavior to be somewhat ahistorical.
Furthermore, given the above, and given the term itself has it's origin in the Biblical account of Sodom, where the issue was clearly males demanding intercourse with males, the odds are rather good that Jefferson's objection to sodomy was focused primarily on the "per anum" style of intercourse most closely associated with the unnatural pairing of homosexuality.
Ping to #81 ...
Washington WH wonderboy Joe Bidden jumped in ahead of Barrack’s coming out of the closet support of queer marriage (what the Carney coined ass positional evolving?)
Ellen Degenerate rammed her closet door in our faces years ago and lowered the fabric of US standing in doing so. Putin’s probably got better poll numbers here than the soon to be unelected.:<[]
I think it was a lot more than 2 centuries.
Putin under communism knew to use homosexuality to bring the west down and now he is defending his country.
Communist rule 26 under the 1963 rules, promote homosexuality as normal etc
exactly Putin under communism knew that to destroy the west they would have to use homosexuality.
He knew this danger and now sees that the homostapo have gain root here and is defending other Russia from the weapon they used back in 1963, rule 26
but they promoted it in the west to destroy us, sadly the fools who have been idiots all their life and can’t think now think homosexuality is alright and they ignore all the diseases, feces sex and their shorter life span
I bet Putin would never appoint a fagot ambassador to a Christian country like the Dominican Republic.
Putin is not a commie. In fact Obama is the commie. That is why he is pushing gayness here. Putin is a nationalist who wants his country to reproduce and prosper. He has jailed many commies.
Russia is mortally threatened (as will we be in the future) by too-low birthrates, and he knows how the homosexual influence worsens birth rates.
that could be interesting
“...They’re turning their backs on the culture of death....”
Well, they had almost a century of it. Putin’s no dummy; he knows what happens when a culture gets intentionally rotted out.
He’s seen it first hand.
Arrest then waterboard.
As a former Communist, and particularly as a KGB, Putin knows that this is a political movement. It has little to do with what private citizens do in the privacy of their own homes.
I like Putin and hate that commie SOB RAT bastard, commie-muslim pig 0dumb0sh_t with a passion. If we throw in Bite-Me & phat ass moochelle, can we do a trade of 0dumb0 for Putin? At least Putin is a fervent nationalist! I hate 0dumb0 with a passion..... may he roast for eternity in Hell!
When your views are associated with those held by an autocrat running a police state in Russia, and a lunatic dictator in Zimbabwe, it’s pretty embarassing and doesn’t exactly inspire people in this country to emulate them.
So in other words, we in the USA should embrace homosexuality as a means of defeating these abominable reprobate homo pigs? Yah, that makes sense. Embrace homosexuality in order to destroy it..... or more like, be destroyed by it. See Sodom & Gomorrah (Holy Bible).
Amazing how Russia is the good guy and the US is the bad guy now.
So, the Amoeba will not be allowed into Russia accompanied by Reggie Love? This Putin ain’t all bad. Bob
The Russians already have a poor birthrate. They don’t won’t it dropping even lower by enticing heterosexual youth into the gay culture where they can engage in sex without the consequence of children. This is more attractive to young women than men, I think.
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