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“I’d much rather stand against homosexuality and Mormonism at the same time.”

Hmmm. Let’s see. So you hate Mormons and gays equally, even though Mormons fought to pass Prop 8 in California and are fervent defenders of marriage between one man and one woman. Let me guess: You are a REAL Christian, right? And all Mormons are going straight to hell, right?

Not that you are able to open your heart and mind even one inch - but Mormons are Christians, too. We love the Savior with all our hearts.

“Hmmm. Let’s see. So you hate Mormons and gays equally”

By this logic, I take it you hate gays?

“We love the Savior with all our hearts.”

Correction, you love the Mormon Jesus with all your hearts. The one that is a product of sexual relations in heaven between Elohim and one of his Goddess wives. And if you’re really really good, you’ll become a God too.

Isa_43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

At least in theory you love the Mormon Jesus with all your heart. Sometimes I wonder about that:

1. Praise to the man who communed with Jehovah!
Jesus anointed that Prophet and Seer.
Blessed to open the last dispensation,
Kings shall extol him, and nations revere.

(Chorus]
Hail to the Prophet, ascended to heaven!
Traitors and tyrants now fight him in vain.
Mingling with Gods, he can plan for his brethren;
Death cannot conquer the hero again.

2. Praise to his mem’ry, he died as a martyr;
Honored and blest be his ever great name!
Long shall his blood, which was shed by assassins,
Plead unto heav’n while the earth lauds his fame.

3. Great is his glory and endless his priesthood.
Ever and ever the keys he will hold.
Faithful and true, he will enter his kingdom,
Crowned in the midst of the prophets of old.

4. Sacrifice brings forth the blessings of heaven;
Earth must atone for the blood of that man.
Wake up the world for the conflict of justice.
Millions shall know “Brother Joseph” again.

http://www.lds.org/music/library/hymns/praise-to-the-man?lang=eng

Mormons fought to pass Prop 8 in California
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Kid we have not forgotten that the Mormons worked against McCain and the Conservatives and republicans in 2008 by finding “busy work” to do instead of supporting the GOP nominee againt Obama

we have not forgotten that the Mormons helped Obama get elected...

The Christians in CA had been working on a marriage amendment to their state constitution for some time finetuning it so it would pass..

The Mormons were in a fit because the liberal abortion pushing father of gay marriage Willard Mitt Romney had been rejected by the Conservatives..

no surprise but the Mormons thought Willard had been entitled...

kind of like his Daddy George had thought he was entitled back in 1964 and 1968...

so like George had done they were not about to help the GOP nominee..

they looked arounds real faSst to find something else to do anjd spied the hard working Christians in CA working on their one man one woman marriage amendment intending to add it to the balloot in 2010 whebn it had been finished and perfected...

it was not ready in 2008...

So the Mormons muscled in and took over and forced the CA groups to submit the unfinished Prop that year...

The Mormons poured millions of their $500 $BILLION dollars stolen from their poor members and coerced their members to knock on doos in CA

with NO intention to have the Prop 8 made into law...

just to keep too busy to help McCain...

Was I surprised when Prop 8 got thrown out ???

No I wasnt I was just sad for the Christians of CA and the nasty way they had been used..

In TN we have our own Marriage Act which we got thank you very much without the so called “help” of the Mormons...

nor did the Mormons help any other state that have a Marriage Act or tried to pass one...

The Mormons got involved in Prop 8 not because they are against gay marriage..

Their own nominee Willard is the father of gay marriage in MASS

they got involved because they wanted McCain to lose...

In 2012 the Mormons didnt need any other busy work..

they were busy trying to get their flawed liberal Willard elected...

and that kid as you well know because Ive exposed you and your fairy tales before...

is the rest of the ugly story...

I am an agnostic who values my Baptist, Catholic, Mormon, and other decent friends with whom I share many more values than not. I figure we who find ourselves the target of the Leviathan should stick together and let the doctrinal differences be settled later by a higher power. Or not. Either way, we should all stand together or surely we shall all hang separately. I am a staunch defender of our Judeo-Christian Culture and have found the many LDS folks I have known to be the same. I stand with you.

So you hate Mormons and gays...

D; you are QUITE the Accuser these days!

But then again; you ARE a Mormon...

We love the Savior with all our hearts.

Yeah...

Sandy said this all the time; too.

What Joseph Smith Means to Us (From: various sources )

"He (Joseph Smith) is the man through whom God has spoken... yet I would not like to call him a savior, though in a certain capacity he was a god to us, and is to the nations of the earth, and will continue to be."

- Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 8:321

"You call us fools; but the day will be, gentlemen and ladies, whether you belong to this Church or not, when you will prize brother Joseph Smith as the Prophet of the Living God, and look upon him as a god..."

- Herber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 5:88

"If we get our salvation, we shall have to pass by him [Joseph Smith]; if we enter our glory, it will be through the authority he has received. We cannot get around him [Joseph Smith]"

- (as quoted in 1988 Melchizedek Priesthood Study Guide, p. 142)

There is "no salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth...no man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God"

- Joseph Fielding Smith, Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 1, p.190

"I tell you, Joseph holds the keys, and none of us can get into the celestial kingdom without passing by him. We have not got rid of him, but he stands there as the sentinel, holding the keys of the kingdom of God; and there are many of them beside him. I tell you, if we get past those who have mingled with us, and know us best, and have a right to know us best, probably we can pass all other sentinels as far as it is necessary, or as far as we may desire. But I tell you, the pinch will be with those that have mingled with us, stood next to us, weighed our spirits, tried us, and proven us: there will be a pinch, in my view, to get past them. The others, perhaps, will say, If brother Joseph is satisfied with you, you may pass. If it is all right with him, it is all right with me. Then if Joseph shall say to a man, or if brother Brigham say to a man, I forgive you your sins, "Whosoever sins ye remit they are remitted unto them;" if you who have suffered and felt the weight of transgression—if you have generosity enough to forgive the sinner, I will forgive him: you cannot have more generosity than I have. I have given you power to forgive sins, and when the Lord gives a gift, he does not take it back again."

- Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, p.154-155

"It is because the Lord called Joseph Smith that salvation is again available to mortal men.... If it had not been for Joseph Smith and the restoration, there would be no salvation,"

- Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 396, 670

They succeeded in killing Joseph, but he had finished his work.

He was a servant of God, and gave us the Book of Mormon.

He said the Bible was right in the main, but, through the translators and others, many precious portions were suppressed, and several other portions were wrongly translated; and now his testimony is in force, for he has sealed it with his blood.

As I have frequently told them, no man in this dispensation will enter the courts of heaven, without the approbation of the Prophet Joseph Smith, Jun.

Who has made this so?

Have I?

Have this people?

Have the world?

No; but the Lord Jehovah has decreed it.

If I ever pass into the heavenly courts, it will be by the consent of the Prophet Joseph.

If you ever pass through the gates into the Holy City, you will do so upon his certificate that you are worthy to pass.

Can you pass without his inspection?

No; neither can any person in this dispensation, which is the dispensation of the fulness of times.

In this generation, and in all the generations that are to come, everyone will have to undergo the scrutiny of this Prophet.

They say that they killed Joseph, and they will yet come with their hats under their arms and bend to him; but what good will it do them, unless they repent?

They can come in a certain way and find favor, but will they?

Brigham Young,

--JOURNAL OF DISCOURSES, vol. 8, p. 224