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2016 forecast: Rubio, Bush, Ryan have chance to win over 40% of Latino vote
Latino Decision ^
| 07/07/2013
| by Matt Barreto
Posted on 07/07/2013 7:38:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
While the 2016 presidential election is a full three years away many of the high profile Republican contenders are enmeshed in the immigration reform debate, and if Republicans demonstrate strong leadership on passing comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship possible candidates such as Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan could get strong support from Latino voters. However if Rubio, Bush or Ryan distance themselves from the immigration bill and House Republicans defeat the measure none of the GOP candidates stands to improve on the historic Romney 2012 defeat among Latinos. [Full poll results here]
A new poll from Latino Decisions, on behalf of America’s Voice found Latino presidential voters are paying very close attention to the immigration debates in Washington D.C. and are evaluating the candidates by their words and actions on immigration reform. Half of the respondents were read a prompt about Rubio working to pass immigration reform:
“Currently the U.S. Congress is debating a comprehensive immigration reform bill that would provide a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants in the United States. Republican Marco Rubio played a key role in helping to pass this bill and with Rubios leadership undocumented immigrants receive legal status and a path to citizenship.”
Respondents were then asked how likely they would be to vote for Rubio in the 2016 presidential election. 54% of Latino voters said they were likely to vote for Rubio, including 50% of Latinos who voted for Obama in 2012, 46% of Latino Independents, and 55% of Latino voters age 18-34. However, absent any prompting about Rubio working to ensure a final bill is passed, he failed to even reach the 30% support mark among Latinos.
Likewise, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush stands to gain if he leans in on the immigration debate and convinces fellow Republicans to pass the bill with a path to citizenship. When respondents were read a prompt about Bush’s support for the immigration bill with a path to citizenship 47% of Latino voters said they were likely to vote for Bush in 2016, including 42% of those who just cast a ballot for Obama in 2012.
Finally, we asked Latino voters how they would evaluate former Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan as a presidential contender in 2016. In recent weeks, Ryan has become an outspoken support of immigration reform efforts, and could emerge as a critical actor in getting a bill out of the House. We asked what effect it would have on Latino 2016 presidential voting, if Paul Ryan were to play a key role in getting immigration reform with a path to citizenship to pass the House. Overall, 44% of Latino voters say they would be likely to vote for Ryan in 2016, including 47% of Independents and 40% of Latino Obama voters. Even Ryan, who was part of the 2012 self-deport ticket, has an opportunity to rebuild his image and standing among Latinos by support immigration reform.
How much support do the GOP contenders need?
In 2012 Barack Obama defeated Mitt Romney by 4.96 million votes, and according to Latino Decisions analysis of the election returns and Latino voting data, Latinos provided Obama with a 5.8 million vote margin. If the Republicans could have won 40% of the Latino vote in 2012 that would have erased 3.6 million net votes – or 72% of the 4.96 million they lost by. Republican don’t need to win the Latino vote outright, they just need to stop losing it so badly. Although Latinos are not the only demographic that Republicans need to improve their showing with, they represent the single largest bloc of voters who are movable. An estimated 11.2 million Latinos cast a ballot in 2012 according to the Census, and more than 12.5 million are likely to cast a vote in 2016, further increasing the share of all voters who are Latino, nationally and in key states. In 2004, George W. Bush won around 40% of the Latino vote and was able to carry states with large and growing Latino electorates like New Mexico, Nevada, Colorado, Florida and Virginia — all states that Obama won in 2008 and again in 2012. The polling data today suggests Rubio most of all, but Jeb Bush and Paul Ryan as well, can equal or eclipse the 40% mark among Latinos if they provide leadership on immigration reform to get a bill signed into law. However they remain far from the 40% mark right now.
The 2016 election if Immigration Reform does not pass
As we have pointed out in polling data before, Republicans will not get any credit for getting a bill through half of the Congress. Latino voters expect to see the GOP successfully move immigration reform and send a true compromise bill to the President. When asked who they would support if the 2016 presidential election were today, no more than 28% supported Rubio, no more than 25% supported Ryan, and no more than 30% supported Bush. On the Democratic side Hillary Clinton is the runaway favorite among Latinos, and would take anywhere from 66% to 74% of the Latino vote if the election were today. Vice President Joe Biden does not fare as well as Clinton though he still commands 30 to 40 point leads over Republican rivals. Thus, Republicans need some momentum with Latino voters and Latino voters seem to say that passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill is the way forward.
Latino Vote in 2016 (as of July 1, 2013)
About the poll: Latino Decisions interviewed 1,200 Latino presidential voters from June 20-29, 2013. All respondents were Latinos who had voted in both the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. Respondents were interviewed by landline, cell phone, and online, in either English (61%) or Spanish (39%) at the discretion of the respondent. The poll carries an overall margin of error of +/- 2.8% on the full sample, and a margin of error of +/- 4.0% on split samples of n=600. Full toplines of the entire poll are posted here.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016gopprimary; amnesty; bush; destroyus; latino; latinovote; nwo; rubio; ryan
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To: SeekAndFind
Rubio, Bush, Ryan have chance to win over 40% of Latino vote Can that offset the loss of conservative voters who stay home?
To: Fiji Hill
If conservatives stay home again, we get another 4 years of Democrats and a permanent majority of liberals for the Supreme Court.
To: Seaplaner
One suspects that the Democrat thumb was measurably on the scale for this alleged "poll". I read a poll yesterday - said DEMOCRATS could pull in possibly 40% of the 'right-to-life' and evangelical Christian vote if they spent more time and money trying to get that vote...
Also that democrats could easily get 50% of the white middle-class NRA vote if they'd relaxed their position on the Second Amendment...
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:18:03 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is a dangerous extremist.. Greenfield)
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:22:19 PM PDT
by
2111USMC
(Aim Small Miss Small)
To: SeekAndFind
An estimated 11.2 million Latinos cast a ballot in 2012 according to the Census
Bollocks. Not even close. According to census website Table 2(pdf) it was
8.4%
To: SeekAndFind
If Rubio/Ryan/Bush win, America loses.
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:27:57 PM PDT
by
exist
To: SeekAndFind
If conservatives stay home again, we get another 4 years of Democrats and a permanent majority of liberals for the Supreme Court. Democrats run the most liberal guy they can fine - then they turn to the Republicans and in soft sweet tones say, "here's some advice - run a moderate so you don't offend people'.
And our stupid GOP leaders believe them.
Well, it won't just be 'some of us' staying home if the GOP runs a 'moderate' again, it'll be millions of us...
And NO I don't care - because if we do 'the stupid' again we'll get another liberal anyhow. Might as well stay home and let them have it. And they can take our House and Senate Republicans with them.
If Gays or Blacks had the IRS targeting them for two years, dems would have stepped in to defend them. When the IRS targeted conservatives our elected blowhards didn't do squat.
That's what we owe them. Not squat. Nothing.
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:28:42 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is a dangerous extremist.. Greenfield)
To: SeekAndFind
Of course...what they do not tell you...is if any of the Amnesty Liberals lose 2% more of the conservative voting base by supporting Illegal Alien Amnesty...they will still lose elections with 40% of Hispanic vote
This Hispanic Voter Myth is total BS.
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:29:05 PM PDT
by
SeminoleCounty
(Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
To: SeekAndFind; Liz
If conservatives stay home again, we get another 4 years of Democrats and a permanent majority of liberals for the Supreme Court. Democrats run the most liberal guy they can find - then they turn to the Republicans and in soft sweet tones say, "here's some advice - run a moderate so you don't offend people'.
And our stupid GOP leaders believe them.
Well, it won't just be 'some of us' staying home if the GOP runs a 'moderate' again, it'll be millions of us...
And NO I don't care - because if we do 'the stupid' again we'll get another liberal anyhow. Might as well stay home and let them have it. And they can take our House and Senate Republicans with them.
If Gays or Blacks had the IRS targeting them for two years, dems would have stepped in to defend them. When the IRS targeted conservatives our elected blowhards didn't do squat.
That's what we owe them. Not squat. Nothing.
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:29:57 PM PDT
by
GOPJ
(In the kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is a dangerous extremist.. Greenfield)
To: SeekAndFind
Republican primaries are always decided by latino voters.
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:29:57 PM PDT
by
DaxtonBrown
(http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
To: morphing libertarian
Lucy would you hold the football for me? So, in your view, it is hopeless? Conservatism is done for? Dead? Finis?
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:30:15 PM PDT
by
okie01
(The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
To: SeekAndFind
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:33:18 PM PDT
by
Moorings
To: SeekAndFind
Only in anglaise do fat, slim, and none mean the same thing.
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:34:23 PM PDT
by
printhead
(Standard & Poor - Poor is the new standard.)
To: SeekAndFind
Oh! Look! Pie charts!
This MUST be true!
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:36:13 PM PDT
by
Washi
(PUSH BACK! Encourage your legislators to introduce pro-second amendment legislation.)
To: SeekAndFind
Oh puhleeze. Never ... gonna ... happen.
To: SeekAndFind
Third party time. At least it will give me the satisfaction of seeing Rubio, Ryan, etc. thrown out of office for good!
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:37:42 PM PDT
by
Mamzelle
To: okie01
In my view if you think the GOP will represent us, you’re hopeless.
It’s time to make them the third party.
I don’t have the energy to organize, but I have some money to put into it.
To: SeekAndFind
GOD, HASN'T THE INESTIMABLE, prescient ANNIE COULTER DEBUNKED THIS BULLS##T SO MANY TIMES ONLY A TARD COULD WRITE THIS STUFF WITH A STRAIGHT FACE?
(HELL IN HER LAST COLUMN WHICH YOU FELLOW FREEPERS SHOULD READ EVERY SINGLE WEEK IT COMES OUT) ..PRINCESS ANN REPORTS...
'We keep hearing insistent claims that if Republicans don't pass amnesty yesterday it will be the end of the party. Can I see the math on that? I can see why bringing in 30 million new Democratic voters would be good for the Democrats, but how does it help Republicans? Maybe conservatives shouldn't blindly trust the calculations of the guy who graduated fifth from the bottom of his class at the U.S. Naval Academy. If I were a Democrat, I would have tried to sneak this bill past Republicans by proposing amnesty only after reaching some easily rigged benchmarks. But, apparently, Chuck Schumer knows elected Republicans better than I do. Step One: Everyone's amnestied. Step Two: After they're amnestied, they can bring in all their relatives. If Hispanics voted 50.1 percent for Democrats, amnesty would be a bad deal for Republicans. But, in fact, they vote 70 percent to 80 percent for Democrats. How did it become an urgent priority for Republicans to bring in 30 million new voters, 80 percent of whom will vote Democratic? Democrats want 30 million new voters and they will say anything to get there: -- It's a crisis! Illegal immigrants are "living in the shadows"! That's not a "crisis." At most -- and this is highly dubious -- it's a crisis for the illegal immigrants. But evidently, "living in the shadows" is at least better than living in Guadalajara. Otherwise, there's an easy solution. We're told, "You don't know what it's like to live in the shadows!" Yes, you're right, and that proves it's not a crisis. Sorry to sound legalistic, illegal aliens, but you broke the law and -- look me in the eye -- you know you broke the law. You hid in the backs of trucks, traveled across remote desert locations, ran from U.S. agents and stole American IDs. It's supposed to be uncomfortable to break the law. We aren't required to grant amnesty to people just because they've put themselves in the awkward position of being here illegally. (Or because the Democrats need 30 million new voters.)
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:41:53 PM PDT
by
jimsin
To: All
40 Percent LMAO.
And if we agree to more free stuff...we can get another 40 percent.
Of course we will be Democrats...but hey, we can win.
This article is a fermented soup bowl of excrement.
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posted on
07/07/2013 8:43:08 PM PDT
by
rbmillerjr
(We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
To: SeekAndFind
What makes you think that Rubio, Ryan or Bush will appoint conservatives to the Supreme Court? Warren, Brennan, Blackmun, Souter and Roberts were appointed by Republicans.
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