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In Secret, Court Vastly Broadens Powers of N.S.A. (almost a parallel Supreme Court)
nytimes ^
Posted on 07/06/2013 9:00:30 PM PDT by chessplayer
The 11-member Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as the FISA court, was once mostly focused on approving case-by-case wiretapping orders. But since major changes in legislation and greater judicial oversight of intelligence operations were instituted six years ago, it has quietly become ALMOST A PARALLEL SUPREME COURT, serving as the ultimate arbiter on surveillance issues and delivering opinions that will most likely shape intelligence practices for years to come, the officials said.
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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; eschelon; fastandfurious; fisa; fisacourt; govtabuse; impeachnow; irs; nsa; projectechelon; rapeofliberty; scandals; starchamber; tyranny
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Hang that traitor Snowden! sarc/
To: chessplayer
More than a parallel Supreme Court - more powerful, more sinister - Camera Stellata.
America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!
Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:05:14 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
To: chessplayer
Remember how the Democrats in congress were constantly making an issue of the FISA court back during the Bush administration?
University librarians lined up to go on the record as refusing to cooperate with the “let us know if anyone is checking out lots of books on bomb making” provision.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:11:56 PM PDT
by
Steely Tom
(If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
To: chessplayer
I catch hell from my friends for not condemning Snowden. 5-6 years ago I would have. I have absolutely no faith in anything that the government says.
To: chessplayer
A secret court that rules in secret and only hears the government’s side.
This is why we are not a dictatorship. We have openness and accountability.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:14:37 PM PDT
by
sickoflibs
(To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
To: chessplayer
“Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as the FISA court”
I did not know this existed. How many of you reading this knew?
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:15:31 PM PDT
by
dynachrome
(Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
To: dynachrome
I’ve known it for something like 5-10 years already. A long time. It started out they could wiretap mafiosi or do “sneak and peek” searches on such people. Now, it would appear, they have decided that their jurisdiction is a wee bit larger.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:18:29 PM PDT
by
coloradan
(The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
To: coloradan
“decided that their jurisdiction is a wee bit larger.”
A wee bit of an understatement, there.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:20:38 PM PDT
by
dynachrome
(Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
To: chessplayer
Maybe we can have a secret court for each of the other Amendments in the Bill of Rights.
Freedom of speech or religion? We’ve a secret court for that.
Second Amendment? We’ve a secret court for that.
All your rights have been revoked. Don’t like it? There’s a secret court for that.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:21:57 PM PDT
by
Ray76
(Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
To: dynachrome
I did not know this existed. How many of you reading this knew?Wow! Current events not your strong suit??
To: null and void
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:26:52 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
To: dynachrome
Don’t feel bad. Seems the press doesn’t care.
The FISA judges . well, I can’t say it. They’re part and parcel of the destruction of our way of life. That is to say, their existence and decisions are antithetical to natural law. For those of you in Rio Linda, that means freedom.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:32:06 PM PDT
by
andyk
(I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
To: chessplayer
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:32:26 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The monsters are due on Maple Street)
To: dynachrome
The Court, unbeknownst to the public, has actually been operating under the legal term for a “wee bit,” which is a “smidgeon”.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:34:49 PM PDT
by
dagogo redux
(A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
To: sickoflibs
We have openness and accountability.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:35:12 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The monsters are due on Maple Street)
To: dynachrome
I have known of that body for some time. I have appeared before one of the judges of that Court, although not in his capacity as a member of that Court, but sitting as a Judge of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.
Without going into the gory details of that case, which I cannot due to Rules of Conduct, I will tell you that I would not have my fate resting in that judge's hands.
I perceive no difference between FISA and any other Secret, Unilateral "Court," whether denominated as FISA, Star Chamber, Inquisition, or Tribunal Révolutionnaire.
And I don't buy that one must acquiesce in the erosion of one's God-given rights to maintain "security." In my long lifetime, we have never had "security" - but in my youth we had Freedom. Freedom is all that matters - without it, there is no life, at least for me!
America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!
Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!
Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:40:23 PM PDT
by
ConorMacNessa
(HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
To: Ray76
Court is now in session.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:41:14 PM PDT
by
UCANSEE2
(The monsters are due on Maple Street)
To: sickoflibs
Not to mention, this monstrosity of a “court” is likely nowhere to be found in the Constitution! It’s most likely a rubber stamp for .gov and its intelligence services!
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:41:51 PM PDT
by
KoRn
(Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
To: ImJustAnotherOkie
You need a wider body of friends. I can’t imagine anyone dumb enough to think we need a FISA to fight terrorism.
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:43:54 PM PDT
by
gotribe
(Limit The Government's Right To Bear Arms)
To: dynachrome
Read. Joseph. Farrell.
CA....
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posted on
07/06/2013 9:44:26 PM PDT
by
Chances Are
(Seems I've found that silly grin again....)
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