i sure enough looked like he was trying to anyway...
Posted on 07/06/2013 10:39:19 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
SAN FRANCISCO (KRON) – San Francisco Police are asking for the public’s help in identifying a man suspected of a brutal robbery/aggravated assault.
On June 30, 2013 at around 1:50 a.m., A female victim was robbed by a group of suspects. One suspect kicked her so violently in the face that she was knocked unconscious, police said.
The suspects are described as a group of approximately 5 black males and an adult black female. The group appeared to have been in their late teens or early twenties.
It is believed the suspects committed multiple robberies and assaults after the Pink Saturday event on Pride weekend was over. It is also believed there may be other unreported robberies and assaults that were committed by the same suspects in the area of Market Street between Castro Street and Civic Center on the same date and around the same time.
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Nope!
Yet another reason to carry!
I agree, very easy to kill someone like that.
was the victim another black, a white, or a white hispanic?
I’m just telling you from personal experience how much it will cost you to get to the point where you’ll think you’re getting off lucky only being charged with a misdemeanor.
Now, it didn’t happen to me personally, but instead to a best friend of mine. He got pulled over by CHP for doing a ‘California Stop’ and when they asked him if he had any weapons in the car he acted like the honest and good citizen and admitted to a stored firearm in his vehicle. There was a loaded magazine inserted in the pistol. CHP hooked him up right there. The DA charged him with a wobbler that could have tipped to a felony if so many points on their secret scorecard added up to ‘felony’.
All told, he spent about $10k to beg the charges down to a gross misdemeanor. The legal ordeal lasted almost ten months with numerous court appearances.. The actual fine was only about $1000, but he had to do 100 hours of involuntary service and attend social rehabilitation classes. Then, he had a suspended sentence of 18 months probation tacked on during which time he was to ‘be in possession of no firearms’. I stored his guns for him in my safe for a year and a half. During his probation, he was registered as a ‘public nuisance’ where any other subsequent charges of any kind would be automatically draw the maximum sentencable punishment if convicted. He spent a lot of sleepless nights worrying, he told me.
That’s the reality. He thought he’d get a break from a cop by being honest, and look what happened. He wasn’t drunk, or combative, or had any other circumstances that caused such a draconian legal debacle for him. It was just a man with no previous record in his vehicle admitting to possessing a registered loaded gun after running a stop sign on a remote country road.
What galls him most of all even today is that what he was charged with isn’t even a crime in my state — and, truly, most states outside of California and New England. I could drive through Nevada in a station wagon with unregistered loaded handguns filling the vehicle past the windows with “unregistered guns on board” painted down the side of the car and its not a crime.
Don’t ever say you heard it from me, but if you ever have to defend your life out in public using an illegally concealed weapon in California... Drop the gun, take the cannoli. If they catch you, you’ll be lucky to only get a 25 year manslaughter charge.
Also, I’ve heard the “but we have to take care of old Aunt Mitzi” excuse for why people still live in California. It’s like I’m a Swiss citizen talking to Soviet-era East Germans who maintain that living under their benevolent Stalinist regime isn’t really all that bad when you consider the benefits that the German Democratic Republic has to offer: “Why, where else can one swim in the Baltic in the morning and then go skiing in the Thuringia forest in the afternoon? The weather is perfect! Besides, we can’t leave here... We have to take care of elderly great aunt Brunhilde, and the children are almost senior cadre members in the Young Revolutionary Pioneers!”
It’s your life, bud. There ain’t no wall preventing you from leaving. Yet.
Wow, that’s a brutal kick to the head, what was her crime?
Banking while white.
Sorta reminds me of a cattle drive and you know what happens to those cattle once they're all corralled, right?
Not much time left.
If that had been Texas, the thugs likely would be on the suckin hind tit side of this thing.
Nobody gets away with a crime in Texas? Interesting...
i sure enough looked like he was trying to anyway...
You want to end up like Zimmerman? No thanks.
re: “The sad story of GZ, among many other things that are wrong.”
Look, I get that not everyone could physically take on 5 thugs at once (unarmed anyway), but what got me most was even after they left, no one immediately went to check on her. Obviously someone must have called 911, but to not even go to her side - that is without excuse.
The “not willing to get involved” thing has been around a long time, so I don’t think blaming GZ’s experience accounts for it. I think it is “big city” morality. The cold, heartless violence is matched by the cold, heartless apathy of those who live there with the “I’m just glad it wasn’t me” mentality.
I keep forgetting this isn’t your grandparent’s USA anymore.
re: “I could drive through Nevada in a station wagon with unregistered loaded handguns filling the vehicle past the windows with “unregistered guns on board” painted down the side of the car and its not a crime.”
Uuh, not exactly - especially North Las Vegas, which is a separate city from Las Vegas. NLV is very gun-control oriented and if you were stopped for something and it was discovered that you had a loaded weapon, you would be put away for a long, long time.
Rural Nevada much different, but in the cities it’s still the same old crap.
>Nobody gets away with a crime in Texas?<
You hadn’t heard? Where you been?
We even have an express lane to the death chamber. hehe
Black men attacking ANOTHER white victim
There’s video. Note that when there is video, they use adjectives because they cannot deny what is in plain sight. Otherwise, yes, without video it would be ‘five youths’. Pretty consistent pattern regardless of ‘news’ organization.
Strawman. You don’t understand objectivism. Nothing in it says you cannot help others out of empathy, fellow feeling or just a sense of justice. You just cannot be used by others as a bandage for their wounds.
I am pretty much a Randite, and I have intervened in crap like this more than once because I hate thugs and don’t want them to feel like they can do this stuff without consequences. However, in California, where I am forbidden the means to defend myself, I might not.
You are right. They’d see their own daughters murdered, and the killers sit in court and laugh about the groaning sound she made every time the knife plunged into her, before they’d see the truth. This is not hyperbole-this is the true story of Amy Biehl and her parents.
I understand it perfectly; the strawman is all yours. Rand certainly argues that while one may choose to lend a hand for the reasons you cite, there is no moral obligation, public duty, etc. to do so, and that being said, there can be no criticism for those who choose to do nothing, choose to merely step over the victim, or choose to simply walk around her and keep going on to whatever they have that they deem more important, be it a cup of coffee or their gay pride march or their abortion appointment (which Rand also justified).
The subscriber to a Randian outlook has no room whatsoever to criticize the bystanders and witnesses here who opted to do nothing acting purely on what they deemed to be in their own best interest.
regarding the clueless parents and others that refuse to see the truth, these types of people vote. Not just for President, but local - your town leadership, school board. And we wonder why our Country is so upside down.
Damn, but did I love your post 64!
If your post doesn’t persuade this man to take his aged mother and wife and get out of that wretched place, nothing will. But I suspect he is so naive and so lacking in a backbone to stand up to his wife, he will stay there and submit himself to the tender mercies of the Great State of California. In which case, he deserves what he may well get.
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