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To: DariusBane

His lack of rolling down the window triggered this. He knew it. If you won’t roll down your window at a DUI checkpoint you certainly appear to be hiding something or keeping odors of alcohol or other substances from leaving the vehicle. So I do not fault officers for going an extra step after he pulled that.

The fake hit with the dogs was the worst part. That should be investigated.


46 posted on 07/05/2013 5:15:31 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: bluecat6

“His lack of rolling down the window triggered this. He knew it. If you won’t roll down your window at a DUI checkpoint you certainly appear to be hiding something or keeping odors of alcohol or other substances from leaving the vehicle. So I do not fault officers for going an extra step after he pulled that.”

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, right?

Wow...


48 posted on 07/05/2013 5:19:28 PM PDT by Backstop73 (Always reading, seldom posting.)
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To: bluecat6
His lack of rolling down the window triggered this.

Well, shame on him for knowing his rights. What the crap are you thinking? We do not exist at the pleasure of the police.

Sheesh. You boot-lickers annoy me.

70 posted on 07/05/2013 7:35:21 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The imposition of a duty on the importation of a commodity burdens the consumers. --Ludwig Von Mises)
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To: bluecat6
If you won’t roll down your window at a DUI checkpoint you certainly appear to be hiding something or keeping odors of alcohol or other substances from leaving the vehicle. So I do not fault officers for going an extra step after he pulled that.

I fault the officers for being there in the first place. This is the wrong way for them to fulfull the motto "protect and serve." Random canvassing for criminals among regular joes going from point A to point B on a public roadway, is absolutly wrong on every count.

86 posted on 07/05/2013 8:21:19 PM PDT by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: bluecat6

ah, finally a defender.

Cops think they are entitled to manufacture probable cause. They are not.

Take your anti 4th amendment mentality and go! Begone! Back to DU with you! Begone vile Stalinist Devil, I release thee!

Crawl back into your risk adverse hell!


102 posted on 07/05/2013 9:41:56 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: bluecat6

To be more serious:

1. I am not OK with the gubment treating citizens as guilty criminals who must PROVE innocence. That is wrong wrong wrong. It is un-American, it is counter to our culture.

2. The cops where very used to manufacturing probable cause where none exists. It is a game to them. It is a game because for them, the consequence of violating a Constitutional provision is nothing. At the worst, a lost conviction. They get off too easy. For a citizen, every time you come in contact with LE, you are at grave risk of arrest. It is far to easy, it is habitual for them to control, incarcerate, bully. It is wrong.

3. The citizen has no obligation to speak to Law Enforcement. You don’t have to say a word, you don’t have to answer any question. You don’t have to roll down your window any further than you want to. It will get you into trouble on the street, but not in the court, unless the cops plant something on you.

4. It is despicable that anybody can watch this and think it is OK, normal, standard, routine. It is routine. But it is very wrong. Cops should be ashamed of their profession and get out. But thugs with no other skills will always trade self respect and dignity for a pay check.

In summary, too many cops, too much money, too much time on their hands. But it is the fault of citizens who demand more police presence and are willing to pay for it. Citizens demand Police because they expect safety to be guaranteed. On this Earth, nothing is guaranteed. But most demand risk be transferred to others because they are COWARDS!


104 posted on 07/05/2013 9:57:57 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: bluecat6

My problem was the officers knew the guy was innocent before they started to search the vehicle. They even say so on the tape at that point they are way over the line and have broken the law themselves.


154 posted on 07/06/2013 10:55:49 AM PDT by EBH (Democracy is the language of dictators.)
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