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Posted on 07/05/2013 3:32:51 PM PDT by DariusBane
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9e3_1373034153
Check points are foolish, the police are begging for a terrorist suicide driver.
The actions I described are unconstitutional and , in the case of Jackson, ms been ended. However, what generated them has not. Many smaller Southern cities, Jackson, Ms, Jackson, Tn, Helena and Pine Bluff Ak and increasingly Shreveport , La and Mobile, Al are becoming the resort of gangs of young black criminals. Drug dealing is their biggest source of revenue but their actions engenders a generally lawless and depraved environment. The root cause is the collapse of the black family in working class and lower economic class black areas. The real depravity of many of these people cannot be imagined if you don’t brush up against them from time to time.
The year my brother graduated from HS, they had a Sr skip day. Almost all of the kids went to a local beach. It got around the crowd that the police had set up checkpoints at various locations along the route home. Friends my brother had (8 of them, I'm glad he rode home with someone else) jammed themselves into a car and used back roads to evade the police. One mile from home, the guy driving crashed into a tree killing himself, his sister, two girls that were ejected from the car and critically injuring the rest. My father was one of the first firefighters on the scene. He couldn't identify four of my brothers friends, but knew the car. Later, they gave him the job of telling the parents their two kids, twins, a boy and a girl, were dead and the whole classes graduation ceremony basically became a funeral.
Seven miles from my house, in an area known for it's DWI checkpoint (that keeps catching drunk drivers because their stupidly drunk) night turned into day and a young mother was taking her little girl to daycare. As she waited to turn in, a drunk that had been trying to “sleep it off” in his car awoke, blood alcohol still double what was legal, pulled out from the bar, drove the 5 blocks it took to reach the women's car waiting to turn in, didn't even put his brakes on — rammed her car from behind instantly killing the four year old. My husband's first death as a new firefighter. He worked frantically to free the little girl as the mother screamed and cried for her daughter. When they got her out of all of the mangled steel, my husband realized the little girl was our little girl's age, same brown hair, same Disney backpack. He almost lost it. But held it together to try and revive the little girl, but she was already dead. He came home not being able to get that sight and the screaming sobs of the mother out of his head. And then the drunk guy, sitting on the curb, “Can I leave now?” It took almost every police officer, firefighter, and onlooker all of their strength to not smash that guy in the face.
These are only a few examples. I can't say what would have happened if the drunk drivers that were caught at the checkpoints had made it through. I only know what happened to many that evaded the checkpoints and the outcomes were tragic. So when, at least where I live, many drunks are stopped at checkpoints, I'm glad.
It’s amazing.... It’s a DUI checkpoint and they never even raised the issue of whether or not he actually had had any alcohol!
Government has contributed to drunk driving by a series of magnitudes, by aiding and abetting lawless open borders...
Tens of thousands Illegal aliens have left a landscape of broken and dead American victims in their path...and continue to do so.
Thank you government.
His lack of rolling down the window triggered this. He knew it. If you won’t roll down your window at a DUI checkpoint you certainly appear to be hiding something or keeping odors of alcohol or other substances from leaving the vehicle. So I do not fault officers for going an extra step after he pulled that.
The fake hit with the dogs was the worst part. That should be investigated.
Both examples you posit show how checkpoints didn't do a thing to prevent death or injury from via drivers. In fact, regarding your first example, one could argue that the checkpoint indirectly caused the accident.
“His lack of rolling down the window triggered this. He knew it. If you won’t roll down your window at a DUI checkpoint you certainly appear to be hiding something or keeping odors of alcohol or other substances from leaving the vehicle. So I do not fault officers for going an extra step after he pulled that.”
If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear, right?
Wow...
Did you read the whole thing? Many hundreds, perhaps thousands over the years have been stopped at checkpoints. I pointed to the carnage of just two that got through.
I agree with that. But we’ve got a bunch of blinding drunk Americans that drive and kill people, to.
I guess I can take solace in the fact that the previous 42 replies were more or less condemning roadblocks and supporting our constitutional rights.
I have police officers in my family and have discussed roadblocks and traffic stops with them in the past. By and large they detest the practice of roadblocks and speed traps and do not feel they contribute to the safety of the public at all. However, they are directed to carry them out through orders of their superiors - who get their orders from the politicians who are looking after themselves.
They state that they can identify and stop drunk drivers just by being out on patrol as there are dead giveaways to drunk drivers that all of us have seen. People who can't keep in their own lane, drive at night with the headlights off, drive too slow, etc.
Once you throw up roadblocks, the not so good cops get a power trip out of it and anybody who gives them any lip, asserts their constitutional rights (as the young man in this video tried to do), or otherwise comes across as a "smart ass" is immediately subject to harassment and intimidation.
So in the end, roadblocks are not about catching drunk drivers at all but about beating the citizens into submission and forcing them to forfeit their constitutional rights in the name of "safety."
Those who are willing to give up their rights in exchange for safety deserve neither.
I am against roadblocks. Imho, they are unconstitutional.
Question for the forum. How about requiring all prospective members of the Bar spend two, maybe four, years on the beat before being allowed to take the Bar exam?
A couple years back we were in El Paso for my niece’s wedding. There were checkpoints setup on the streets each night I was there, and at different places. I suspect it was for the illegals, but not so sure. We were waved through each time.
No, not “if it would save just one life”.
Because it has saved many, many more. And sitting at a computer playing arm chair quarterback does not change facts.
I’ve heard people say “Damn I can’t drive home right now there might be a checkpoint and I’ve been drinking.” They don’t stumble around the bar saying I can’t leave because I’m hammered and might kill someone, no, they’re more afraid of the checkpoint because they’re drunk. Good. I don’t want them on the streets. “But I’m not like everyone else I drive fine when I’m drunk.” You hear that one a lot, to. Or “I’m not drunk, but the cops will harass me if I leave.” after you’ve seen them down 5 shots of Wild Turkey and two Pitchers of beer.
Bump! Is that nobama’s son in the lower right?
Now you are just making stuff up.
So you want us to believe that these folks are completely hammered, but they have the common sense and wherewithal to worry that there “might be a checkpoint”? And you heard this where?
The BS meter has just pegged.
This is the slippery slope you are taking us down when you decide that giving up freedoms is worth it in order to save lives.
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