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Day 19 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 5, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/05/2013 4:54:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 5th, is DAY #19 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

The State is expected to wrap up their case today – A great recap of the trial so far is available HERE: The key witness today expected to be Sybrina Fulton, mom.

Great Expectations? Remember, as y’all have noted during the 15+ months of research, there is so much corruption in the assembly of this case we could expect the State to avoid the traditional witnesses brought by normal prosecutions. We have not been disappointed in our predictions. The state has already won a pre-trial motion to bar the defense mentioning the absence of any witness from the State’s case.

So it comes as no surprise, not a single State investigator has been called, not a single FBI officer, only one local investigative detective, Chris Serino (who supported the defense), and now the profound possibility they won’t even present the Seminole County Medical Examiner. So has the State actually even proven that Trayvon is indeed, deceased? Without the M.E. the ballistics are essentially moot – where did the aforementioned bullet come from? They have not established it came from Trayvon’s body. Think about it.

Because of pre-trial ‘motions in limine’ to exclude the defense bringing it up, O’Mara cannot mention it. Would/Will the jurors notice a missing M.E. = Trayvon blood tox. etc?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bao; fulton; jahvarisfulton; notes; shiping; shipingbao; showtrial; sybrina; sybrinafulton; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: All

I thought all evidence to be placed in a trial had to be provided for both Prosecution and Defense before trial.
As well as witness list.
Why would the defense not have a full report of the ME before testimony?


921 posted on 07/05/2013 9:09:20 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Sacajaweau
IIRC, the DNA dude said the hoodie was in a plastic bag and any DNA was contaminated. This guy said “only paper allowed”. Person putting them in plastic would be immediately fired. Oops....I see a bus coming.

Not exactly, IIRC. Improper procedure for handling DNA. DNA needs to be kept in containers that permit air circulation, otherwise mold can grow and destroy DNA. IOW, whoever bagged the evidence for the DNA technician is a doofus who does not use proper procedure. Since improper procedure was used during the chain of custody, all of the evidence gathered by that person is suspect since that person did not use proper procedure in at least some instances (plastic instead of paper container for DNA evidence). At least that is the way I understand it. I am not a ME, etc.

922 posted on 07/05/2013 9:09:26 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: moehoward

>> My notes I made during prep by the prosecution.....

My notes, prepared for me by Angela Corey. I wonder if she got careless and signed them.


923 posted on 07/05/2013 9:09:30 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: RummyChick

“would a new thread help with the issues that are happening right now with not seeing all posts.

Maybe there is too man total on this thread for whatever the problem is at the moment”

I’d like to think the whole world is reading and laughing on this thread at this farce of a show trial!


924 posted on 07/05/2013 9:09:56 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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To: RummyChick

No problem here on Veizon DS:L


925 posted on 07/05/2013 9:10:07 AM PDT by imardmd1
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To: Sacajaweau
After all...these are summary notes of his autopsy.

Per the witness, no they are not.

He specifically stated that these are notes he made in preparation for being (cross)-examined on the stand. He said he spent hundreds of hours studying photographs and his autopsy notes and attempted to foresee what questions may be asked of him at trial. The notes represented his answers to those perceived questions.

926 posted on 07/05/2013 9:10:41 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: eastforker

I have witnessed a deer run a hundred yards after being shot through the heart and lungs before collapsing.


Shot one running one time, he flipped, jumped up and ran about 70 yards, then crumpled.

As you have stated, this one was heart shot. Seems that lung shots drop
them quicker, but the heart must cause something to happen in their
system that they have that sudden burst of energy.


927 posted on 07/05/2013 9:11:16 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Hoodat

I just turned CNN on....

The guy just said that the ME sounds like he just fell off a turnip truck! lol


928 posted on 07/05/2013 9:11:18 AM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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To: All

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929 posted on 07/05/2013 9:11:34 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...hold to the truth; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck)
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To: Tau Food

Well, Saint Martin intended to harm or kill George and he hoped he would succeed, but fortunately George fought off his attacker.


930 posted on 07/05/2013 9:12:23 AM PDT by soycd
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To: toldyou

and another witness blows up for Bernie.


931 posted on 07/05/2013 9:12:51 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Spunky

I hope the CE rehearsal was with a prosecutor who gave him lines to utter.


932 posted on 07/05/2013 9:13:22 AM PDT by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: Uncle Chip; All
Bao knows that someone in his office screwed up evidence, he is on the defensive.

Not bagging the hands at the scene is another screwup, Martin's hands could have been drenched in Zimmerman's DNA. After 3 hours on soggy grass it is a given that evidence would be lost.

I really suspect that Martin did manage to get his hands under his body, by reflex if not consciously.

933 posted on 07/05/2013 9:13:43 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: jiggyboy

Sure is!


934 posted on 07/05/2013 9:13:52 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: patriotspride

I have also seen a man shot in the heart and drop like a sack of potatoes. In a calm state the adrenalin isn’t pumping, down you go. When the adrenalin is pumping, that is a different story.


935 posted on 07/05/2013 9:14:02 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: Elle Bee

He may be arrogant now but he will be humbled when West advises him that the DNA expert said the clothes arrived (from the ME) in a plastic bags, the wrong procedure for the ME (should be in a paper bag so they can breathe).


936 posted on 07/05/2013 9:14:27 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (You can't eat Sharia)
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To: RummyChick

This is going to be good. Bao was crapping himself about the defense seeing those notes. West is going to make mincemeat out of him.


937 posted on 07/05/2013 9:14:38 AM PDT by Semper911 (When you want to rob Peter to pay Paul, you'll always have the support of Paul.)
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To: All
This ME is from eastern China....the prior strange woman ME was from India or Pakistan.....it seems the medical field is predominent with transplants these days. There used to be a slogan "Buy American". With the current economy, "Hire American" would be helpful. I sure wouldn't want this verbally-halting, seemingly-unassimilated-in-the-American-legal-system examiner handling an autopsy of any crime victim in my family, that's for sure.

Leni

938 posted on 07/05/2013 9:14:51 AM PDT by MinuteGal (')
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To: patriotspride

My ex-SIL shot herself in the heart (suicide attempt). She was in ICU for months, in hospital for many more months and never fully recovered from all the damage; however, she lived for another 15-20 years at least.


939 posted on 07/05/2013 9:15:07 AM PDT by MomofMarine
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To: machogirl

>> I am incredulous that this Judge is allowing this to go on with the notes.

I’m betting this is a huge professional embarrassment for the judge. What was she thinking? She HAD TO KNOW from the beginning he was reading from notes during testimony! It is HER job — not the defense attorney’s — to call BS on that dodgy technique.

Couldn’t happen to a more deserving tyrant, tell you what.


940 posted on 07/05/2013 9:15:08 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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