Posted on 07/03/2013 1:44:36 PM PDT by EXCH54FE
While watching the Martin-Zimmerman trial this week, combat veteran and Navy Cross recipient, Jeremiah Workman noticed a particularly disturbing decoration on Doris Singletons Sanford Police Department uniform when she took the stand. Singletons uniform had two ribbons the World War II Army of Occupation Medal and the Defense Distinguished Service Medal which Workman knew could not belong to someone who had only served in the Army for three years.
I worked at the Pentagon with Sgt. Maj. [Carlton] Kent and Gen. [James] Conway for two years and I was around every general in the Marine Corps. I know these high ribbons, I know just about all the ribbons anyways, Workman told The Marine Corps Times.
Workman, a former Marine who fought in the second battle of Fallujah, posted a picture of the woman on Facebook with the caption, Am I going blind or is this police officer in the Zimmerman-Martin trial wearing ribbons that she doesnt rate? I see a WW II army occupation medal and a Defense Distinguished service medal. Wow! On the stand she was asked about her military career. She said army for 3 years. So she received in three years what a 4 star general receives after forty years of service. Wow. What a superb 3 year army career!
Gina Harkins, who writes for The Military Times, saw the post and contacted Workman, who had already talked with the Sanford Police Department by telephone. He told Harkins that according to the conversation he had with a Sanford PD official, since the department doesnt have their own awards system, they simply went to the Army-Navy store and picked out Defense Department military ribbons. The official also stated that they intentionally chose World War II ribbons because there are not many veterans still alive from that era and they did not think anyone would notice.
The response left Workman thinking, So that makes it all better now because these guys are dead? He told Harkins, The fact that that was their response is still pretty shameful, I think.
Shameful, indeed.
He questioned, But what kind of professional police department would send Bob the patrolman around the corner to go pick out some ribbons for our officers to wear when they do something heroic or have good service over the years?
Workman also said that the official told him that they were working to set up their own awards system.
The police chief, who is also an Air Force veteran, replied to Business Insider via email stating that they apologize if any veterans were offended, and promise to rectify the situation.
Also according the website, other veterans have emailed the police chief insisting that the use of the ribbons be immediately stopped.
“I dont see this as an insult to members of the military. It wasnt intended to be referenced in relationship with the military.
Do folks who serve in the military see this as an insult. Perhaps Im off base here, but I dont believe they should.”
I see it as an insult as well as being stupid. Vietnam, 1970.
Doesn’t exist.
If The Boston show of force did not educate anyone on the Militarization of the Police force nothing will!
“When I asked if the family had declared he had walked on the moon would they have printed that too - he hung up on me.”
LOL, all the family had to do was make their own Wikipedia entry about the guy.
What doesn’t exist?
I think that putting any award into common use cheapens it.
If the Sanford PD went to a surplus store and bought CIB, passed them put like candy and designated them as “Marksmanship Awards”, it would degrade the significance of the actual award and piss off a whole host of people.
They need to create their own award system, in my opinion.
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Would a Armed Forces member wear Police medals on his uniform? No.
Hard to tell.... do I see whiskers?
Who would want a dead dog ribbon on his chest?
I won’t bother with the ribbons, but he’s also wearing a Military Master Free-fall Parachutist badge, Special Operations Diver badge, Senior Parachutist badge, Ariel Assault badge, and what appears to be a Combat Medical badge with 2 awards. It’s also hard to see in this picture, but his wings appear to be those worn by USAF Astronauts. No wonder he’s got the thousand yard stare.
No one has eve been awarded a CIB 4 times.
The way the regs were originally written you could go up to 8 - the 5th is similar to the first, but in gold, etc. Now the award is broken down by date and region.
With all the conflicts in the world these guys serve it is possible to have a combat record of many posts.
I did research that and you are correct!
That is the point. How were they able to obtain these ribbons? Did they just walk into clothing sales go up to the military section and pick out a few??
If that is correct we have a problem!! (one of many)
There are dozens of web based companies that sell authentic or replica military insignia.
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